Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Johann david kohler
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was keep. Melchoir 22:38, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Johann david kohler, now moved to Johann David Köhler
Content was determined to be a copyright violation; based on the initial contributor's username, I suspect it may also be a vanity article. Folajimi 17:52, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Wallace Koehler is the co-author of the text from which this is supposed to be a copyvio, so assuming he is identical with article author User:Wallacekoehler, he can probably release the text under the GFDL and we could just ask him for a confirmation (I don't see any messages on his talkpage yet). The notability of Johann David Köhler is not really in question – he has articles in the Allgemeine Deutsche Biographie and its successor, the Neue Deutsche Biographie (the German counterparts of the NDB and ODNB).[1] Note that if there is a relation between the author and article subject, there is still about 250 years between them. I don't see that as a problem bad enough to delete the article. u p p l a n d 19:22, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep I posted to the author's talk page but this is his only contribution since February. The pdf containing the copyvio has his affiliation, so it shouldn't be too hard to drop him an e-mail in the real world. In the meantime I think we would be safe to restore the "copyvio" version, it needs cleanup and wikification anyway. Thatcher131 22:25, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Point of information: Could it be that you are confusing articles in the mainspace with entries in userspace? The entry is not preceded by "User:", as would be the case for registered users. I seriously doubt that the subject will respond... Folajimi 01:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- I posted the same comment to Talk:Johann david kohler and to User talk:Wallacekoehler. Thatcher131 01:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- The odds of obtaining a response is increased by contacting the latter, who happens to be a user. You may have also noticed that it was part of the case I made for bringing the main space article here in the first place. Folajimi 10:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Point of information: Could it be that you are confusing articles in the mainspace with entries in userspace? The entry is not preceded by "User:", as would be the case for registered users. I seriously doubt that the subject will respond... Folajimi 01:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Wallace Koehler writes: Interesting discussion. The process of posting new material to Wikipedia is abit unclear. It is true that I found Johann Kohler of interest in part because of his name but more importantly because of his contribution to library science. As far as I know I am not related to Johann David. In any event, my wifer and I hold the copyright to the paper from which this material is derived and we grant the appropriate GNU copyright to maintain it:
Copyright (c) 2005 Wallace Koehler and Vera Blair Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU Free Documentation License".—Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.18.162.112 (talk • contribs)
- Unfortunately you did not log in, so wikipedia only recorded your computer's IP address, making this effectively an anonymous statement. Can you log in with your user name and password and confirm this? And sign your statement by typing 4 tildes like this "~~~~" which creates an automatic timestamped signature. Thanks.Thatcher131 12:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- That hardly makes a difference. He is not less anonymous just because he logs in with a username such as User:Wallacekoehler; he would be only if the username can verifiably be connected to the real-life Wallace Koehler. In any case, the IP belongs to the State of Georgia/Board of Regents, and WK works at a state university in Georgia.[2] I don't see much of a problem here. Wikipedia trusts users with much less evidence of authorship every day. u p p l a n d 12:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Taken care of off-wiki. I got an e-mail from Mr. Koehler and forwarded it to the foundation, although I agree that was probably overkill in this case. Thatcher131 12:49, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- That hardly makes a difference. He is not less anonymous just because he logs in with a username such as User:Wallacekoehler; he would be only if the username can verifiably be connected to the real-life Wallace Koehler. In any case, the IP belongs to the State of Georgia/Board of Regents, and WK works at a state university in Georgia.[2] I don't see much of a problem here. Wikipedia trusts users with much less evidence of authorship every day. u p p l a n d 12:34, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, no problems with copyright now. Stifle (talk) 22:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
