Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joel Rust
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep per WP:MUSIC and WP:HEY due to addition of WP:RS. Bearian (talk) 17:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Joel Rust
Non-notable, which hasn't been remedied after almost two months of a notability tag. The only established attempts at notability are invalid: the competition for Young Composers fails #4 for composers and lyricists at WP:Music, and single performances don't fall under any of the notability criteria. SingCal (talk) 20:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. --Explodicle (talk) 20:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Epbr123 (talk) 21:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- -- pb30<talk> 16:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 05:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep I found two reliable sources; The Guardian and BBC News seem sufficient. I'll put them into the article. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 05:01, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Does not seem to be notable enough for an encyclopedia. We can't list every musician that has had a few performances and gotten their name in the paper. Beeblbrox (talk) 05:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: However, if the person in question has won a competition arranged by two very established institutions I'd say they're notable. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 05:35, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Reply Review WP:MUSIC regarding notability standards. Both of the sources you posted are trivial coverage, seeing as Mr. Rust gets little more than a sentence in either one. The competition he won is impressive, but non-notable under WP policy because it's established specifically for young composers. SingCal 06:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- He gets a sentence, but in the Guardian review he apparently got a positive reaction from an esteemed composer. ("The third winning piece in the senior (16-18) section, Paraprosdokia by Joel Rust, is for a more modest woodwind and brass sextet, but it made no less impact. Wiegold was bowled over by the work's "brilliant" opening.") Personally I think that satisfies notability, but that's the inclusionist in me. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 06:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Reply Review WP:MUSIC regarding notability standards. Both of the sources you posted are trivial coverage, seeing as Mr. Rust gets little more than a sentence in either one. The competition he won is impressive, but non-notable under WP policy because it's established specifically for young composers. SingCal 06:04, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
