Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Kelly (Freeholder)

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The result was Keep.  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  16:10, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joe Kelly (Freeholder)

Nomination incomplete. Finishing for nom. Fails WP:BIO as a county officeholder who has received no major press coverage. --DarkAudit 17:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

• Weak keep. A google search turns up a surprising amount of info on him. I don't see any coverage in the national media, but he seems important in New Jersey. And Atlantic County is a pretty big county, with Atlantic City and all. --Allen 17:59, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment But none of that is here. This just says he's a board member. Just that is not enough to warrant inclusion. --DarkAudit 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Herm. Googlehit count drops from 1,170 hits to 417 if you exclude the term "wikipedia"[1].And a lot of the searches later on seem to be non-relevant Bwithh 02:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Weak keep. Neutral per Bwithh and Ohconfucius, and possibly speedy delete if "no assertion of notability" is indeed true. If the google search is that comprehensive, someone can use it to clean up the article and make it warrant inclusion. Just because info that makes him notable is not in the article now does not qualify as a deletion criterion. Morgan Wick 23:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The article as it stands now, fails WP:BIO. That makes it a candidate for deletion. That there may be info out there to satisfy notablilty standards ventures into crystalballism. --DarkAudit 01:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    • We judge notability based on the subject, not the article. "Crystalballism" would apply if there aren't sources out there to satisfy notability, but hey, there could be in the future! But if there may be sources out there, we verify that. If there are, we should keep it, if there aren't, we delete it. Simple as that. Morgan Wick 01:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• I don't see any assertion of notability, therefore Delete per WP:BIO. I think Allen's google search is good but pushing the boat out a bit. There is always, rightly, information on anyone who has to stand for election. There are several Joe Kellies out there who seem quite notable, but unless anyone cares to put something there to underlien this one's impoirtance, I say "you're fired". Ohconfucius 02:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I also notice that this item was supposedly part of a bundled AfD dated August 6, but somehow slipped the net. Ohconfucius 02:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as per nom and above Bwithh 02:47, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The Google search listed above demonstrates notability. The article is a stub and will benefit from expansion using the variety of independent, verfiiable sources available. Alansohn 15:22, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - as per alansohn --ZeWrestler ^Talk 17:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Alansohn and my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atlantic County Board of Chosen Freeholders. Accurizer 20:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.