Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jochum de Lange

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The result was keep JoshuaZ 19:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jochum de Lange

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Doesn't seem to be very notable (47 Google hits). Neutrality^talk 20:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Two difficult things to use English language Google for: historical figures and figures notable in non-English speaking countries. This article is both things, so I would discourage the use of Google hits as the basis of notability. I tried to do a variety of searches, and this link refers to both the event described in the article, and the man involved (this appears to be even better, but Babelfish isn't helping me understand it too well). I would encourage those users familiar with historical sources and the Norwegian language to try to dig up sources to establish notability. Some Strilekrigen articles don't seem to reference him, so perhaps Strilekrigen should be an article, and the current one not. I withhold keep/delete recommendation for now, though. Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:42, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Also I redid the header to conform to AfD norms, preserving the original nom. Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 23:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep but move to Strilekrigen, the Norwegian name for the "peasants' revolt" of which he was one leader. There are more sources for this tax revolt (or rent strike) than there are for the man's life itself. --Dhartung | Talk 05:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Norway-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 10:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

I understand that english speaking individulals may have problems verifying the facts about Jochum de Lange. But he is a wellknown character amoung local historians. and it is not hard for anyone who understands Norwegian to verify this information, due to articles in books and on the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superveg (talk • contribs)

Regardless of the language they're in, can you provide us with some verifiable sources attesting to his notability? Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 18:23, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep if verifiable, seems to be a a notable, albeit minor, historical figure. Dsmdgold 21:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

• Now I have listed several sources (one in german), I hope this is sufficient.Superveg15:35, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:HEY and Dsmdgold. Bearian 19:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The novelisation adds to the individual notability, though I'd like to see a more exact reference.DGG (talk) 19:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep perfectly notable. Johnbod 01:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per added citations of notability. This is a case for cleanup, not deletion. Anyone for creating the Strilekrigen article as well? Eliz81^{(talk)(contribs)} 04:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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