Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Estill

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 10:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Estill

This self-advert / autobiography has been nominated for speedy deletion once and prodded twice. In lieu of the second prod, which is not allowed, I am hereby taking it to AfD so we can have it deleted properly. The article asserts some notability, but I do not believe that its subject is notable enough to warrant an article, especially not one to which he himself is the only substantial contributor. Henning Makholm 20:18, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment This page is in a GREAT need of a re-write, it reads like a bio from a company website. Notability is questionable, though someone may be able to confirm whether the company he is CEO of is notable enough to be considered. Wildthing61476 20:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Userfy as apparently created by the subject himself. JChap 20:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Per Wildthing61476, this article is in an atrocious state (we don't need "Mr. Estill" everywhere for a start), but the subject is probably notable per guidelines (haven't checked for sure). Unfortunately, writing about yourself in Wikipedia is a confirmed bad idea (Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes). There should arguably be a SYNNEX Corporation article well before this one (it's red-linked in the Companies listed on the New York Stock Exchange (S) article). And since there isn't, one has to wonder... But - Neutral on this for now. --DaveG12345 20:50, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Should maybe just add "Mr." Estill is CEO of SYNNEX Canada, which I guess is not the whole shebang. --DaveG12345 20:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
  • There once was a SYNNEX article, but it was deleted as spam. IIRC it was also created by User:Jime@synnex.com. Henning Makholm 09:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 16:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as per Stifle. Dionyseus 16:29, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep: I was going to vote delete, but I did a proquest search and found about half a dozen articles on him and his companies. I've distilled a few drops of encyclopedic essence from these articles and redrafted the entire article. He might pass WP:BIO#10. Most of the stuff that I could not immediately verify I have snipped. If it survives the AfD, or if there is interest, I can try looking for better sources. — Kaustuv Chaudhuri 19:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I have to go Weak Delete, per Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes and the evidence of the purged SYNNEX effort. As the phrase goes, when you're notable enough, someone else will write the article. Not verbatim policy, but a good rule of thumb here I think. --DaveG12345 21:52, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: It's worth pointing out that Estill is also on the board of directors of Research In Motion. -- Mwalcoff 23:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • This is a tough case. As a member of the board of directors of a public company with shares or ADRs traded in the United States, the company is required to include a brief bio in their annual reporting. All of these are available online. He's been on the board for 9 years, so the basics of his business involvement are clearly available. These corporate reports should count as reliable sources due to the risk of shareholder lawsuit for knowing inclusion of false information. His blogs are self published material, so they aren't reliable sources for establishing notability, but they are reliable sources for expanding the article. It will be hard to have more than a stub unless the Canadian media chooses to do a bio. The Forbes Q&A recently added to the article is weak data on notability. He sits on the board of a number of other Canadian companies. I think it is a Weak Delete. As a blogger, it is hard to sort through for news media coverage, but I've tried searches with several limiting terms, and the best I've found is this site listing him as #19 in Canadian computer dealer newsmakers for 2005. That just isn't high enough for my thresholds. GRBerry 14:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.