Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jim Boyd (musician)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Sango123 00:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Jim Boyd (musician)
This article has been a musician stub since August 2005, has very little detail, and the person doesn't seem to be very notable aside from winning record of the year at the Native American Music Awards in 2005. Bobblehead 02:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete fails WP:BAND, and WP:BIO. If made to conform to WP:V, I'll change to keep but notify me on my talk page. SynergeticMaggot 03:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)Keep. SynergeticMaggot 14:47, 1 August 2006 (UTC)- Keep award-winning musicians. --badlydrawnjeff talk 11:10, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: No information present except that he won an award. His record label isn't given, sales aren't provided, and we don't even know in what year he won the award. Certainly there is no biography present, and yet the article is lodged at a biographical heading but talks about, I gather, his musical work with groups. Geogre 11:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- We do know what year, he won it this year. Songwriter of the Year. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, but we still don't have evidence that he has passed our standards on musicians, and the article doesn't provide enough. Look, I'm in favor of the next great songwriter, etc., but the next great songwriter isn't our call. We have to have some measurements that he has passed the bar already and generated comment from disinterested parties that can be verified. Geogre 13:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- He's won a major music award. That's certainly within our standards. --badlydrawnjeff talk 13:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, but we still don't have evidence that he has passed our standards on musicians, and the article doesn't provide enough. Look, I'm in favor of the next great songwriter, etc., but the next great songwriter isn't our call. We have to have some measurements that he has passed the bar already and generated comment from disinterested parties that can be verified. Geogre 13:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- We do know what year, he won it this year. Songwriter of the Year. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - he won Songwriter of the Year award in 2006 in the Native American Music Awards, according to that link above. LemonIce 12:40, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, notable. BoojiBoy 12:59, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep. Needs improvement, but meets WP:BAND. Kafziel 13:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep but tag for improvement. Artist has won multiple awards. Clearly meets WP:MUSIC standards. Article should be expanded, but I find no valid grounds for deletion. Scorpiondollprincess 14:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - per above. PT (s-s-s-s) 18:56, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Awards are awards and therefore notable. Improvement and expansion please.NYcine 3:24, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Do the Native American Music Awards really qualify as a "major music award" alongside the Grammy Awards, Juno Awards and Mercury Music Prize? --Daduzi talk 22:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think they're up on that level, but I think they're comparable to other similar major cultural music prizes, for sure. This award in particular is nominated by major figures, and gets plenty of attention. [1]--badlydrawnjeff talk 22:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know, amongst the other pieces of information gleaned from that website ar the fact that "tickets are on-sale now through www.tickets.com and will be priced at $25.00, $50.00", an average of 127 Native American Music Recordings were released per year from 1998-2001 and a quote from USA Today suggesting "Maybe it's time to start taking Native American music seriously." These don't suggest a major, widely recognised award to me. That being said there's no guideline in WP:BAND as to what constitutes a major award, and the talk page and archives aren't much help either. I'll post a comment at Wikipedia talk:Notability (music) asking for input, but I'd suggest we might be better off seeing if there's any other criteria that are met rather than basing a keep solely on the "major award" clause. --Daduzi talk 01:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think they're up on that level, but I think they're comparable to other similar major cultural music prizes, for sure. This award in particular is nominated by major figures, and gets plenty of attention. [1]--badlydrawnjeff talk 22:30, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
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