Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jewish-Canadian authors

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus; article will not be deleted. Mindmatrix 16:01, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish-Canadian authors

not another one. sigh. "List of $Religion/$Nationalisty $job" is just more list-cruft. (Unless we want list of Puerto Rican plumbers and List of Italian dentists.) --Bachrach44 18:28, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

• • Comment That's List of Methodist dentists and that's my line. Durova 23:59, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

• Comment: Google hits: Methodist dentist= 190, Puerto Rican plumber= 48, Italian dentist= 241, Jewish Author= 60,700. -- JJay 04:01, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• • • ROFL Durova 17:16, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep What's wrong with it? Perhaps move to List of Jewish-Canadian authors. --Kilo-Lima 18:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Valuable as a category IMO. Velvetsmog 19:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete unmaintainable listcruft. KillerChihuahua^?!? 19:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and edit for relevance. Nothing wrong with lists of people whose religion influences their work. Durova 19:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Unless you plan to include every Jewish Canadian who has ever written any sort of book, this will come down to an arbitrary 'notability standard' and is therefore non-WP Cynical 20:07, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. I thought this was the sort of thing catagories were for? D-Rock 20:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• This actually duplicates a much more extensive subsection already present at List of Canadian Jews. I'd redirect it rather than deleting, personally. Bearcat 20:57, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep- BUT Should be turned into a proper literary history-type article. Nothing wrong with using this list (and the one under "List of Canadian Jews") as a stub to get going. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.211.6 (talk • contribs)
• Keep. -- JJay 01:03, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep but rewrite as per 70.51.211.6. Unlike, say, the plumbers article possibility (or other lists that I have voted to deleted) one's religion and ethnic background can be a relevant factor for an author. See Mordecai Richler, for example, who pretty much set the standard for Jewish-Canadian authors. 23skidoo 02:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete No Methodist dentists in my neighborhood, and even if there were, they'd be important for their professional skills, not their faith. Denni ☯ 03:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, get rid of this listcruft.Gateman1997 05:49, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• So well said. -- JJay 05:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• Stalking is so passe.Gateman1997 06:48, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

 ?? -- JJay 07:37, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• Delete - perhaps useful as a category though... Blackcats 07:27, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, it's an arbitrary distinction. -- Kjkolb 08:03, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Mamma mia, that'sa nasty article stuck in youra tooth! Er, yeah, anyway. No definition of 'Jewish' (race? religion? was it important to the author?), no definition of 'key' and no definition of 'author' even - we've got poets, historians, novelists, oh my. Basically, it's a list that some guy wrote, and not all of those are suitable for Wikipedia. --Last Malthusian 10:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• It's not surprising that nothing is defined, because the list was there for all of six minutes before Bachrach44 constructively engaged the contributor with his AfD notice. The editor had been here two days, and has since indicated that he has left the site- so maybe biting the newbies applies as well. I might have done the same thing, had I been treated like a vandal without explanation. -- JJay 17:35, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

• I've never bought the 'give it time' argument. If a new page is, in its first draft, going to be unsuitable for Wikipedia, then it can be worked on in a user subpage or, for that matter, in Notepad. And it can still be worked on after it's deleted. If it's substantially improved and recreated, it won't be eligible for speedy deletion. So in summary, there's no need to use the namespace as a building site. --Last Malthusian 20:22, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

• Comment I urge the voters here to join Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Lists by religion-ethnicity and profession. Quite a few of these nominations have come up in the last month and the votes aren't always consistent. Durova 17:33, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This is a sufficiently interesting segment of Canadian writing to merit coverage. The article could stand some significant expansion to provide context and note historical developments. Not having any knowledge in the area - beyond having read works by a number of the authors listed - I can't make those contributions myself. But it is something I'd read if available. --GrantNeufeld 00:52, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and rename per KL. Owen× ☎ 21:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.