Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jesus Miracle Crusade

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete the only info known about this group is a hostage rescue, other than that the article isn't unverifiable, and policy is key here. Jaranda wat's sup 20:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jesus Miracle Crusade

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This organization doesn't seem to be very notable [1], and may not fit notability standards. --HAL2008TK CT 06:05, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Strong delete per notablity standards. Maybe even db-corp. Giggy UCP 06:06, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete switching to keep, see below --健次(derumi)talk 06:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC) — Not notable; other than the criticisms, the majority of the information appear to come from the church itself. --健次(derumi)talk 06:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
A comment on the talk page does claim this group is notable in the Philippines. --健次(derumi)talk 06:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I have blocked the account of User:Wake up saul for continued disruption. This is not a place to evangelize. Keegantalk 06:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, also per notability standards. One quick Google search isn't the gold standard for notability (WP:GOOGLE), and per WP:NOTABLE, Notable means "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice". It is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance". Numerous news articles have been written about it and its founder, particularly in connection with the 2000 Abu Sayyaf kidnapping incident. It's a religious organization established in multiple countries, which can be verified via multiple independent sources. What more is needed? The recent NPOV edit frenzy shouldn't affect notability/non-notability decisions. Tlesher 06:36, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Tlesher's comment. --Siva1979Talk to me 06:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep (edit conflict) — per Tlesher. I'm convinced it's notable. As Siva1979 says, it will need reliable sources. --健次(derumi)talk 06:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep Seems notable, but needs more sources. Have also requested semi-protection--judging by the vehemence of the anon blankings, there's more vandalism likely while this AfD is underway. Blueboy96 10:56, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 11:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 11:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep he group has attracted enough notice to have several news article written on it. Pats Sox Princess 14:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, none of these news articles are written "on it". They're written on a hostage rescue, and mention this organization only in passing in connection with that hostage situation. I can find no sources whatsoever which are about this organization, and notability is solely a function of how much source material there is on the subject. The information in the article is thus unverifiable, so it's got to go. Seraphimblade Talk to me 22:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.