Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Worth

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The result was delete. Unverifiable and non-notable. Sr13 23:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jeremy Worth

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This is a page about an ordinary orthodontist, and also contains links to much promotional activity. It needs to go. File Éireann 20:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

  • What promotional activity?--Letterkennyboi 20:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete No significant coverage to make him any more notable than any other orthodontist. Being the only one in town, or providing 'quick treatment' is not an assertion of notability. The rugby club is an amateur side, so he is not particularly notable in that regard, either. Sources are primarily from his own site for his practice. DarkAudit 20:45, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete via A7 Definitely NN. Borderline G11.--Whsitchy 20:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Nothing notable. HeirloomGardener 20:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Orthodontist. Herostratus 21:14, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as non-notable. Is it starting to snow? Ten Pound Hammer • (((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps))) 21:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete, A7. Non-notable, and possible self-promotion. *Cremepuff222* "As cool as grapes..." 01:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I don't think a speedy is appropriate as there are several claims to notability. Stifle (talk) 13:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Surely worth a mention. After all, he is particularly notable in the town for his achievements. --DevelopedMadness 16:29, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
And any coverage for such achievements? There really isn't any. DarkAudit 17:01, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep- There are claims of notability so I say keep.--DevelopedMadness 21:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
    • You've already endorsed it once. There are claims, but very little to back it up, especially where notability and sources guidelines are concerned. DarkAudit 00:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Definite Keep. Very famous around the North of the country. I got braces from him myself. He won awards and certificates for his dental achievements.--Balloholic 12:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Then prove it There are still no sources forthcoming to make this man any more notable than any other orthodontist. 'The only guy in town' doesn't cut it without significant coverage. It should also be noted that the above user has made very few edits before this one. DarkAudit 18:13, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I know I only joined yesterday haven't had much time. Can't find any but it says on his site so I think that is reliable enough--Balloholic 19:04, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid it isn't. The sources also need to be independent of the subject. He can say whatver he wants there, but we can't use it, because without a secondary source, it's can't be verified. DarkAudit 19:35, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Without doubt. He was a vital component to the visit of New Zealand rugby union captain Tana Umaga to the town. He put in much hard work behind the scenes in determining the occurrence of the visit and he represented his rugby club as Umaga returned to the roots of Dave Gallaher, captain of the Original All Blacks who was born in nearby Ramelton. --86.40.193.22 20:35, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
    • So you say there are many claims of notability by users local to the subject, but there are few sources being provided to back up these claims. One article in a local paper does not notability make. All the other sources are primary sources and simply do not pass reliability or verifiability guidelines. All we have here is the say-so of editors who may or may not have a personal connection to the subject. There may even be conflict of interest issues here. DarkAudit 21:19, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. Certainly no delete. The poem he wrote is contained on the official Dave Gallaher website which is not connected in any way to the subject of the article. Surely that makes it a secondary source? --86.40.200.135 22:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
    • No That doesn't show notability. It shows the poem. There are not enough sources and not enough accomplishments per the notability guidelines to make this person any more notable than any other orthodontist or amateur rugby player. A local hero is still just that, local, without significant outside coverage. There still isn't any here. The Keep endorsements are all coming from editors from the subject's location, and/or admitted patients of him. There looks to me to be too much connection to the subject to be truly objective. DarkAudit 01:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - no reliable sources to establish anything remotely like notability -- Whpq 16:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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