Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jenin massacre

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was redirect. Mackensen (talk) 05:12, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jenin massacre

A clear POV fork of Battle of Jenin 2002 -- the creator created the current fork from the redirect left behind after the material had been moved. Redirect back to Battle of Jenin 2002 -- and lock it. -- Antaeus Feldspar 00:11, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete. POV fork. Gamaliel 01:17, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. POV fork indeed, nothing really to merge either. gren 03:40, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect. No merge. It doesn't hurt to redirect. This name is definatly searchable. Jeltz talk 14:10, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Truns out that the origin of this article is no fork. This seems to be the rogininal location for the article. Somebody just decided to write a POV-rant on one of the redirects to the Battle of Jenin 2002 article. Jeltz talk 14:13, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect; POV fork but a searchable term that, deserved or not, is widely used for the events. There's nothing new in the present version or the history as of this time to merge, so delete before redirecting; POV forks suck. Samaritan 15:21, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect since the term-though POV-is widely used. --TenOfAllTrades | Talk 16:53, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Abstain. Lol. I wrote this section and I'm certainly not Israeli bias. Read Talk:Battle of Jenin 2002 for complete debate. Basically I felt labeling the Battle of Jenin 2002 as a hoax was unfair (it was in the category hoax), but due to an unmoving opposition I had to compromise in making it clear that only the Massacre was the hoax. If you look at the battle articles's history page[1], I had a big go at evening up the article as it was very pro-Israeli, but felt that removing the hoax category might be going against consensus so used talk pages.
Thus my personal preference is redirect and make sure there is no hoax tag in either article, but... oh well you can read the debate. In the talk page's history[2] is a RFC I prepared but decided against using believing it would go nowhere. In summary I did at least try at keeping it relatively non-POV. -- Tomhab 17:24, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • I've padded out the stub to make it clear what it's all about. I do feel its kind of futile though. I would be quite interested if the article was padded out to include the entire media reaction so it can be kept separate to the battle article. -- Tomhab 11:06, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect. known term. Mikkalai 01:32, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep but make encyclopedic. I reworded and expanded it a little. We need this article to indicate that the allegation of a massacre was a hoax. If it is possible to do via redirect, that would be my 2nd choice. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 09:48, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • We need this article to indicate that the allegation of a massacre was a hoax. With all due respect, no we don't. We need to put that information in the existing article on the incident. -- Antaeus Feldspar 11:27, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Battle of Jenin 2002. Megan1967 10:10, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Battle of Jenin 2002 which already covers allegations of a massacre. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 02:56, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Battle of Jenin 2002 is most reasonable.IZAK 04:55, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Battle of Jenin 2002. The massacre hoax is an aspect of the larger historical event. -- 8^D gab 20:54, 2005 Apr 19 (UTC)
  • Redirect. Pavel Vozenilek 01:56, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Redirect. Lectiodifficilior 04:45, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge and Redirect to Battle of Jenin 2002. Seems the sensible thing to do. --Irishpunktom\talk 09:25, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge and Redirect --Briangotts 20:29, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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