Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffrey T. Kuhner
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. John254 00:49, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jeffrey T. Kuhner
Not notable. The only secondary source is a New York Times story about a story the subject wrote. Almost nothing is said about him himself. The other sources are primary: the story itself and a follow-up to it, written by the subject, and a short bio/intro posted on another site. Nomination withdrawn Steve Dufour (talk) 12:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Editing has changed the selection of sources. They are now the NYT story which mentions him and 2 website bio/intro's.Steve Dufour (talk) 15:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- The links to his own stories have now been put back. But still only one secondary source.Steve Dufour (talk) 22:36, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Merge to Insight (magazine). This is the notable place he works, even if he is not notable. Redddogg (talk) 13:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep, I think. Googling JTK turns up RS on pre-Insight appearances on TV, some involvement in Croatian politics,[[1]], a book (completed or still in manuscript?), etc.[2], all stuff that doesn't fit in the Insight article but which someone who ran into him in that context and wanted to know more might want to know. What's the rush to delete this stub? Andyvphil (talk) 03:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- For one thing he himself tried to edit his article and was blocked. Check out the talk page. BTW I searched for more information on him too and only came up with resume type stuff. I added the bio/intro thing. Steve Dufour (talk) 03:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know if that's necessarily a good reason to move to delete, though--a desire to manage one's online presence?
- Keep He's the editor-in-chief of a controversial, popular website.Athene cunicularia (talk) 15:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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- As far as I know, he and his minion weren't blocked -- the articles got a low level protect against anon and new editors while an attempt was made to educate him, and he seems receptive so far. And I came up with more than "resume stuff" when I Googled him, mostly non-RS but some RS. Looks to me like a decent stub, and no problem with technical notability. Andyvphil (talk) 10:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- I think the word "minion" is a bit questionable to use about a WP editor. Steve Dufour (talk) 20:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
- As far as I know, he and his minion weren't blocked -- the articles got a low level protect against anon and new editors while an attempt was made to educate him, and he seems receptive so far. And I came up with more than "resume stuff" when I Googled him, mostly non-RS but some RS. Looks to me like a decent stub, and no problem with technical notability. Andyvphil (talk) 10:43, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment He may be an important person but one NYT story does not make him notable according to Wikipedia:Notability (people). Steve Dufour (talk) 20:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep and unmerge info hidden inside the template in the Insight (magazine) article. He seems quite an interesting chap: an anti-Communist who headed a national newsweekly. He has taken on Obama and the New York Times, which means he has guts despite lacking either good sense or a politically correct attitude. --Uncle Ed (talk) 23:01, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Notable enough, with positions in academia and with a major newspaper before the current controversy. --Michael Johnson (talk) 02:07, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment I have nothing against Mr. Kuhner, just the non-notable nature of his article. Find another reliable source and I will withdraw my nomination. I still have an objection to half of the article being taken up by one day of his life. Steve Dufour (talk) 04:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep, per Ed. Guettarda (talk) 15:27, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
I withdrew the nomination after checking out the Croation article, which seems to have used a couple items from the WP article on the Washington Times BTW. This also seems to be a RS establishing Kuhner's notability. Steve Dufour (talk) 21:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Keep Kuhner is clearly notable, and moreso recently.riverguy42 (talk) 17:20, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.