Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff White Motors

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jeff White Motors

Very well-done page for Welsh exotic-car dealer but despite respectable 5,170 Google hits I still don't see anything that passes WP:CORP. Daniel Case 14:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Weak delete— Will watch and might change vote conditioned on expansion — Wow, that's the best written article for an automobile dealer I've ever read. But that's hardly the basis for retention. And one can't help but be interested in how an autodealer gets 5,170 Google hits. As you scroll through the various hits, you recognize that the article is nowhere near as extensive as it could be. If someone went to the trouble of showing a dominant presence in sports (for example), then Jeff White Motors might make the threshold of notability. Williamborg (Bill) 15:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as well, unless some assertion of notability surfaces. I also don't see anything obvious in the google hits that could let it meet WP:CORP, and there's 0 usenet hits. Also, it's not the best auto dealer article written, see Cal Worthington and Sytner Group. Personally, I think a single used car dealership is almost never going to meet notability criteria. --Interiot 15:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Hi it was not supposed to be the best article ever written I am a good writer this is why it is ok. It was supposed to put a popular Welsh businessman and company on the map so to speak. I'm sorry but if this article does not meet criteria then I am very surprised at some of the rubbish that gets posted on wiki e.g such as Wakigama hoshima yuri was a ninja in anime Aaaaaaah! monsters for example. And that is allowed as an article? I thought wikipedia was supposed to venture across all boundaries and aspects of human life for 'the sum of all knowledge'. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:03, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Come on I got over 8,000 google hits and he is a major sponsor in sports- this meets the criteria of a football league. I am sure I have even seen the company on billboards in top FA Cup games.Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:04, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
    • As I said on your talk page, you are confusing the criteria for sports clubs and teams under WP:CORP with that for companies themselves. The only one I can see this possibily meeting is multiple non-trivial media coverage not generated by the company itself. You'd do well to try to find this. Daniel Case 17:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • It is not a single car dealership - he has a number of branches throughout Wales and one in Bristol I think.
    • That doesn't make a difference. Daniel Case 17:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm pleased to see you (Ernst Stavro Blofeld) support your work strongly. I'm a pretty strong inclusionist; I read each article with the premise that it should be saved if it can be. You write well enough that we want more of your work.
As to this article, what would change my mind is something compellingly broader than just a big dealership or even a cluster of dealerships. Biggest in the nation, if true & verifiable, would get my support. Or something related to how they got all those Google hits; they seem to be very active in supporting racing and otehr sports activities. But without your excellent writing, I'd not even have given this article a chance.
The nice thing about Wikipedia is we can change policy if it is wrong. Take a look at WP:CORP. If you can improve it by identifying other reasons for notability, please do.
Regardless of whether this article survives or not, keep up the excellent writing. Wikipedia can use more talent like yours - Williamborg (Bill) 18:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, unless we got some proper references such as well-known newspapers or something that mention the company in articles and stories. I don't think it meets the notability tests. — Wackymacs 17:30, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per the above reasons. Would set a very bad precedent. Besides, it's hardly well written, rather like a small tribute to Mr. White than an encyclopedic article. Bravada, talk - 01:17, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.