Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Gardiner

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The result of the debate was delete. CDC (talk) 18:13, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jeff Gardiner

This appears to be a fantasy biography. Jeff Gardiner is supposedly a U.N. peacekeeper, master juggler, recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize, member of the Hosplitar Order of St. Johns, published poet, and CEO of an ISP. Yet, there's not a single source for any of it. A request for sources on the article's talk page resulted in the admission by an anon editor that it was all original research. I think "research" it the wrong word. This is appears to be nonsense. Willmcw 21:00, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

• Abstain. There appears to be some foundation for this article. I withdraw my (implied) vote to delete. If the article can be stripped down, cleaned up, and sourced over (quickly) then I might vote to keep. I'm not sure that this individual is notable for his verifiable information, and his moderately-successful military and business careers seem to have been uneventful. The article appears to be the product of vanity or sycophancy (such admirable qualities in other contexts). Are middle-aged IT professionals as notable as Pokemon characters? Well, in this case.....I abstain. -Willmcw 06:29, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Sholtar 21:01, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, not verifiable. --W(t) 21:17, 2005 May 27 (UTC)
• Comment - UN Peacekeepers in general won the 1988 Nobel Peace Prize. The poetry anthology appears to be real (BookFinder.com). Idologic Inc. seems legitimate (Idologic.com). We have an article on the Turbot War. In short, all of the claims are reasonable, though I haven't been able (in a cursory Google search only, actual contact with Idologic, the Order of St. John, the UNDOF, any of the named universities, the Canadian Chamber of Contemporary Poetry might be able to turn up more) to find any verification that a specific person named Jeff Gardiner was connected with any of them. -- Jonel 02:47, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I tried to verify him - I can't find a list of contributors to the anthology. Gardiner, according to this bio, was born in 1968, so it is possible that he was in the Canadian armed forces in 1988. Idologic do4es exist, but they don't mention Gardiner. Ditto for the other company. This guy would possibly be notable if any of this were verifiable. -Willmcw 03:45, May 28, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete not notable. Megan1967 03:19, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
• Delete and inform the woman he picks up tonight that the guy's not everything he claims to be. — Phil Welch 05:40, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
• Comment Confirmed pg. 276 does contain a peom by a Jeff Gardiner. Recommend contacting Idologic.com via contact page. Was able to find brief Bio on Biomarkimaging.com "Contact Us" page. Megan1967 what deteremines "notable"? Phil Welch your comment is non-substantial and petty.
  • Thanks for providing this bio. Unfortunately, it does not support all of the info in the article. Do you know the source for the other info? Is Gardiner himself invoved in this editing? Thanks, -Willmcw 23:02, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • Entries like this on, in the "births" section of March 20, make me wonder about the good faith of the editors involved in this article. "*1968 - Jeff Gardiner, recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize". Obviously it was the U.N. which received the Peace Prize, not Gardiner. -Willmcw 23:09, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • Another odd mention of Jeff Gardiner is in Gay rights, where someone added this sentence: "In May 2005, Jeff Gardiner supported the same sex union act by starting a flame." No idea what that is supposed to mean, and a question on the talk page hasn't elicited any answers. -Willmcw 23:10, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • I checked Biomark Imaging's site and found no mention of Gardiner on their contacts page or elsewhere. I have no way of checking the poetry (or is that peotry?), but I wouldn't take this source's word for it. --Michael Snow 23:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Comment Just wanted to confirm that I can verify this: "Jeff CO-founded Idologic Inc. and currently holds the position of CEO of Idologic Inc. and Director of Information Technology at Biomark Imaging Inc." to be true. You can call the toll free number on the site idologic.com and there's contact information on biomarkimaging.com. Disclaimer, I am involved with both companies, but am not Jeff. "While employed with the Imaging Laboratories at Robarts Research Institute, a research Institute named after John Robarts" this is verifiable too at robarts.ca. Can't confirm any of the other things.
  • If we boil the article down to that bare minimum it's gonna be kinda dry. The company bio from Biomarkimaging.com appears to be a rewrite of his resume and neglects any details of his military career. The article seems as if it were written by a family member or employee. Has any newspaper ever done a profile of him, or otherwise reported on him? Thanks, -Willmcw 04:54, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
  • retracted
  • That URL didn't work, could you paste the relevant text into the talk page of the article, with a publication date? Thanks! Talk:Jeff_Gardiner -> or here is good too. -W.
• Delete vanity
• Delete vanity CDC (talk) 05:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Comment - if this helps, the University of Western Ontario Alumni Directory lists a Jeffrey T. Gardiner graduating in 1996. (And, as above, the Robarts Research Institute is a real place at UWO.) Adam Bishop 05:46, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, vanity. Ambi 16:37, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, even if the content of this article is factual it is almost impossible to verify its accuracy and neutrality. - SimonP 17:12, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as vanity. --NormanEinstein 17:43, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, unverifiable. --Michael Snow 23:47, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete --Image:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 22:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Unverifiable due to lack of notability. -- JamesTeterenko 23:08, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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