Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jazz Age Chronicles

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete - crz crztalk 05:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jazz Age Chronicles

Jazz Age Chronicles (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Article claims this comic has been "around" for 20 years or so, but has a surprisingly small web presence for such an old comic. If this is false, the comic fails WP:WEB as it makes no other assertions to notability beyond age. Contested prod. Brad Beattie (talk) 04:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Article and Website both fail to assert notability. Canadian-Bacon t c 04:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 06:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Sauce or delete. - Mailer Diablo 12:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - The author of the comic appears notable, which satisfies WP:WEB. Since the article Wikilinks him, this would be it's claim to notability. At the least, merge it with the author's page. Xuanwu 10:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: I moved most of the info to Ted Slampyak, which at least has a few sources which make it appear nontrivial (Ignatz Award,Addy Award, Little Orpahn Annie). Perhaps a redirect is in order. -- Dragonfiend 20:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment - I'm not sure if WP:WEB is the only criteria to apply to this comic. According to the article, it began as a printed work in 1989. It's only been recently that's been put on the web. I think the general rule is that a comic that starts in print and then moves onto the web is not technically a webcomic (similar to Garfield or Dilbert). Were the publishers of Jazz Age notable? Can anyone find any reviews of the comic from when it was published? Xuanwu 23:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep article was a lot more expansive before the copyrighted information was removed. All this article needs is some attention. --evrik (talk) 20:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep evrik's comments make a lot of sense. Sounds like a legit comic by a legit artist, so at the very least folks should look at whether content could be added to this entry to make it useful. I'm sure that Wikipedia has retained articles on far more trivial sub-subjects. lblanchard
  • Delete. Doesn't look notable to me. WMMartin 16:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - where's the notability? Just because we've retained other articles,that doesn't give this one license to remain without proper sourcing and proof of notability. --ElaragirlTalk|Count 18:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment - I think I can summarize the argument to keep with three main points. First, Jazz Age Chronicles was published by a notable comic book publisher, Caliber Comics (I looked them up - now I remember where I heard that name before). Second, the author of the comic is notable. Third, the webcomic version of Jazz Age Chronicles is currently being released by Graphic Smash.
If only the third point was true, the subject might not be notable enough to warrant inclusion (I'm not going to argue that every comic on Graphic Smash is notable because it's on Graphic Smash). However, the original Jazz Age Chronicles was released through a publishing house that was "well known and independent of the creators," WP:WEB requirement #3 (Caliber was well known in the early 90's). This, to me, indicates that not only was Jazz Age Chronicles notable in the early 90's, but that it has remained so today, as proven by Graphic Smash's willingness to include this comic in their commericial enterprises. Slampyak's own personal notability furthers adds to the value of keeping this article.
Lastly, the article passes the "perfect article" test. Given enough time, Jazz Age's publication history, offline reviews from the early 90's, and other NPOV facts could be compiled to make this a well-referenced article. It's only because of the comic's age and the current defunct status of its major publisher that makes it difficult to find this material. But it's not impossible. We have articles on Caliber's other major series, such as A.K.A. Goldfish and Deadworld. This one is no different. Xuanwu 19:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.