Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Heyward

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Heyward

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Subject fails WP:BIO standards for athletes for never having competed at the professional level or at the highest amateur level. He was selected in the Major League Baseball draft but has A. yet to play a game in even the minor leagues and B. not yet decided whether to go to college or to the professional level. Metros 18:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Having been drafted as a #1 pick of an MLB club is most assuredly notable, and while not official, it is a foregone conclusion that he will indeed sign with the Braves. Additionally, I would imagine that his selection and inclusion to such events as the Aflac All-American High School Baseball Classic and the Perfect Game Top Prospect Showcase should qualify as the highest levels of amateur high school baseball. MichaelProcton 03:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Once he plays in a major league then he's in but schoolboys who might play in the future are not. This applies to sports like soccer and cricket and should also apply here. High school baseball is not the highest level of the game as an amateur sport. Nick mallory 05:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (U.S._state)-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep -- If he's been drafted, then presumably he's received at least one paycheck from the Braves. Unless he wraps his car around a tree or something, I can't fathom them not trying to get their money's worth out of him soon enough. Leave the article alone as a stub and let the sports nuts play with it as the baseball season progresses.--Mike18xx 00:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment That's not quite the way it works in Major League Baseball. Draftees have up until August 15 (I think that's the date) to decide whether they're going to sign with the team or continue playing baseball at the high school or college level. If he does decide to take the pro contract, he'll probably stay in the minor leagues for several years before he possibly makes the major league team. So technically he's never signed a contract (or received at least one paycheck from the Braves as presumed) and he's definitely never played a game at the professional level. Metros 00:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. Fails WP:BIO for athletes; Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so he gets no article unless he does start to meet that guideline. Notability is presumed for extensive coverage in secondary sources; I couldn't find any articles talking about his prospect as a first pick. Ichibani utc 03:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. I agree that he fails BIO, but I think the references in the article are enough to make a legitimate argument that he meets the general guideline in WP:N. Someone has gone to the trouble of writing and referencing the article, and I see no harm in it. If the guy goes a different route, the online sources will presumably go away, and I would see a much stronger reason to delete.--Kubigula (talk) 04:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.