Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Cupp

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The result was Delete. Could have been speedied as a non-notable biography, seeing as the article is a sub-stub length.  (aeropagitica)   (talk)  08:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jason Cupp

Recording engineer of uncertain fame. Original text of this page listed a few redlinked bands plus The Elected whom Jason was said to be "known" for working with. I prod'ed the page, saying, producer of four redlinked bands and one very minor band. does not meet WP:BIO. The prod was then removed and the page edited to say, Is a Record Producer/ Engineer who is know for his work with many redlinked bands, 2 very minor bands and Danzig. Well, Danzig is at least a notable band...

A search at Barnes and Noble turns up 29 albums, although in each of the ones I've checked I don't actually see him listed and can't see where the search is finding him. I checked a couple via allmusic, and I see that he is listed as Engineer on Danzig's Circle of Snakes [1], and Assistant Engineer on Social Distortion's Sex, Love and Rock 'n' Roll [2]. From which I conclude that he is a working engineer, and is probably moderately well known in the field -- the equivalent, I would say, of a solid session guitarist. I don't think that this passes WP:BIO; if there were an engineer version of WP:MUSIC, I think only the very top echelon, like Steve Albini, would meet it. I don't think one becomes notable because of having their name in the credits in a notable album. Consequently, I am calling this one a weak delete, but I bring it here for your consideration. bikeable (talk) 15:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

There's a category Category:Audio_engineers which includes well over 100 audio engineers. Granted, quite a few are notable for other things as well. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 22:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting, I hadn't seen that -- thanks. I picked four at random, and one I had actually heard of, one worked on many Rolling Stones albums, one worked on the Beatles, Stones, Zeppelin, and KISS, and one seemed marginally non-notable to me. Based on this limited survey, I think Jason comes in lowish in the ranking. Do you have an opinion on this? thanks. bikeable (talk) 23:03, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Weak keep I don't have a strong opinion either way really, although I would say that what we're really trying to determine is whether audio engineers in general are notable after having worked with major-label artists. I suppose I would say so, and at the very least having recording-engineer bios would make nice complementary material to our considerable coverage of music and records. Producers, remixers, and DJs with major-label work are considered notable, so this isn't much of a stretch. Weak keep. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 15:16, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow this is great! I was told today that I was (am) listed on Wikipedia and that I was up for deletion, I say do it! However, this is the most hysterical thing I have ever seen. I want the debate regarding my importance to continue. Fantastic! -Jason

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