Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jaradites

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete I'm always dubious of allowing a wikiproject to dictate a notability guideline for subject areas that is seen to trump overall notability. The requirement is for multiple non-trivial independant coverage. This does not meet this and therefore gets kicked into touch. Just to be clear, match reports are not multiple reliable sources create. Spartaz Humbug! 07:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jaradites

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Created by member of the club with no significant input from indeppendent editors. Unable to verify most of the content as there are no sources that go beyond trivial listings. Fails the notability guideline of Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union - the team is at the second level of regional competition. dramatic (talk) 10:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. —dramatic (talk) 10:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. None of the three external links given mention the club. As dramatic says, their home page is not available, the lds site appears to be the home page for the entire organisation, and mooloos is the home page for the Waikato Rugby Union.-gadfium 18:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Comment if you drill down to http://www.mooloo.co.nz/Club-Rugby/Senior-Club-Rugby/ it lists the team with a phone number and email address, but mere confirmation of existence is nothing to hang an article on. dramatic (talk) 00:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Doesn't seem notable. -- Dougie WII (talk) 22:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep The page now has solid third party articles related to some headings. Fo rexample, why the Jaradites switched from Rugby League to Rugby Union. The success of individuals and team effort.Wsunnex (talk) 23:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment The posting of a library user number to allow viewing of a restricted access resource violates both Wikipedia guidelines and the Hamilton City Council's regulations. Given that you have provided references for some of the material, we have a question of notability. A Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_union#Are_New_Zealand_Rugby_clubs_notable.3F discussion at the Rugby Union wikiproject suggests that teams at the second level of a district union competition are non-notable unless there are special aspects of notability. Has Jaradites won a large number of titles? no. Is the fact that it is based around the LDS community notable? No - there have been religion-based rugby clubs (Marist in nearly every NZ city) for decades. The number of brothers is really clutching at straws for notability (and IIRC it isn't referenced). An entire team switching codes is certainly unusual, but is that sufficient basis for an article? It is also problematic that there have been no substantial contributions from any disinterested editors. (It's a sort of litmus test - if you are notable, someone else can be bothered researching and writing about you)dramatic (talk) 12:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep - As per Wsunnex. Has third party source, Waikato Times is a reliable source. Could use a clean-up, but shouldn't be deleted. - Shudde talk 02:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: Someone using an IP Address belonging to the University of Waikato attempted to remove a delete vote and a comment (by different users) from this discussion. And again on 18 April (reported to AIV). dramatic (talk) 01:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not a bulletin board. Article fails to demonstrate notability of this local rugby league. B.Wind (talk) 05:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.