Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamison Parker

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. Deathphoenix ʕ 17:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jamison Parker

Tagged CSD A7 (nn-band) but contested, so bringing here. I'm just the janitor. Just zis Guy you know? 13:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per non-notable Ydam 13:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. [1]. I found them at allmusic.com, as well. PJM 14:04, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Strong speedy delete First of all, this article can easily be speedily deleted because it does not attempt to assert notability, which is what CSD A7 if all about. It doesn't say that the band has been signed to a major label, or toured with anyone of import, or had a hit song, or anything of the sort. It just says, "This band exists and has two records. The end." Second, the article is almost certainly vanity, as it was created by User:Jp07, and JP just happen to be the initials of Jamison Parker. Third, Jp07 mentions on the article's talk page that one of Jamison Parker's songs is in List of songs about suicide. Aside from that meaning nothing to the importance/notability of the band, Jp07 put the song on the list himself- after he made that comment on Jamison Parker's talk page. But even aside from those final two points, what matters is that the article does not assert importance, and thus, there is no reason for it not to be speedily deleted. Sure, they're on AllMusic and they get a lot of Google hits, but those criteria are not the be all and end all- the content of the article is. -- Kicking222 14:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I gladly echo most of what you say, but every now & then editors should rely on savvy instead of pure letter-of-the-law. This is a case of a notable subject presented poorly. PJM 19:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment - a bad article does not make the subject non-notable. I could write a bad article about virtually anyone. Ac@osr 17:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete Fails WP:MUSIC on the article content. Dominick ^(TALK) 17:58, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. I'm all for speedying articles that do not assert notability & I tag them frequently. I also believe in extending the life of poorly written articles if the subjects are notable. A band with two CD's released by Interscope Records satisfies WP:NMG, in my view. PJM 18:48, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. No, I'm sorry. It is just poorly written--I'm trying! I wrote my first original article last night at about midnight--I was tired and didn't have a lot of time to devote to it, but I plan to expand it shortly. In order to defend the "vanity case," this is not even the first article I have edited/composed, if you check my history I also edited the Mario series enemies page. My initials just so happen to be JP as well, but I did not take this into consideration until it was mentioned, I suppose. They just happen to be one of my favorite bands, and I live in Kansas--check my IP address if you want--and they are based in California. So obviously they have a significant influence. And about the suicide songs page--I edited the link ONLY so that it actually pointed to an article now. The mentioning of "Slow Suicide" was already on that page. --Jp07 20:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. I would clean it up myself except I have to go to work. They have a detailed Allmusic.com article which indicates that at least one of the two records was an album released on Interscope in 2005. Their Allmusic.com bio then mentions that they supported that album with a tour. Having a national tour, an album and EP released on a major label and a biography on Allmusic.com a verifiable source according to our guidelines qualifies them under WP:MUSIC for mine. Capitalistroadster 22:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per roadster. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 02:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep and clean-up. Amazon indicates both CDs were by Interscope, but that seems to be the only reason. Band biographies on All Music Guide are not, in and of themselves, indicators of notability. I'm not sure a supporting act on a tour qualifies under WP:Music. The issue was discussed but never resolved. --Chaser (T, C, e) 19:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

• Keep and cleanup. The article is poorly done, but I've heard of this band before. --Awiseman 21:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I've heard of a lot of bands that don't have WP articles. Do you know Milton? They were a wonderful band, but they weren't notable enough to have an entry. -- Kicking222 23:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per capitalistroadster. Amazinglarry 23:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Not only have I heard of them, but I think I've heard of them from some sort of an MTV show, and if that doesn't make you notable, what does? --fuzzy510 04:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep but rewrite in functional English. -- GWO

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.