Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamie Parker
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. --Tikiwont 09:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jamie Parker
Local politician without substantiated claims to notability. Fails WP:BIO. -- Sent here as part of the Notability wikiproject. --B. Wolterding 17:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete In checking on sources for this article, I found none of any consequence. There is a same named actor that does have notability. This subject does not appear to be notable. --Stormbay 18:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep per Google News Australia hits, unless someone wants to make the case that none of those articles rise to the WP:BIO standard.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:41, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, could you at least pick one or two of them which in your opinion have enough in-depth coverage for writing a biography? Google hits alone don't say much - I looked at some of the results, they seem to confirm that he's a local politician, but these usually wouldn't be considered notable. --B. Wolterding 18:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Per BIO, "Widespread coverage over time in the media such as the BBC, The Times or other reliable sources." The first hit has coverage like "Jamie Parker, the candidate for the seat of Port Jackson, is unusual for the Greens. He's a salesman, not a tree hugger or a North Coast save-the-whale hippie....For Jamie Parker, it will be another four years in the wilderness. But, with more money behind him, the next election may be a different story." Further down, there's an abstract from The Daily Telegraph stating: "Leichhardt Council, notorious for its Machiavellian politics, is at it again. Actually I think it's worse than Rats in the Ranks, said Greens councillor Jamie Parker, who last week prematurely was claiming the mayoralty. Today the former deputy mayor is licking his wounds -- a victim of a controversial deal between Labor, the Liberals and two Independents to ensure the Greens are locked out of power." He's got mentions in multiple papers over at least 5 years, 1999-2004. I don't know him from a hole in the ground, but this seems like notability to me.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Not sure. The first hit, which is perhaps the most in-depth one, is a transcript of a maybe 5 minute interview. Not too much for standards in politics (I don't know exactly about Australia though). Once he wins these elections, things may be different. Many other of the hits are very short mentionings, and if you browse further down the list, they don't even relate to him at all. --B. Wolterding 19:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Per BIO, "Widespread coverage over time in the media such as the BBC, The Times or other reliable sources." The first hit has coverage like "Jamie Parker, the candidate for the seat of Port Jackson, is unusual for the Greens. He's a salesman, not a tree hugger or a North Coast save-the-whale hippie....For Jamie Parker, it will be another four years in the wilderness. But, with more money behind him, the next election may be a different story." Further down, there's an abstract from The Daily Telegraph stating: "Leichhardt Council, notorious for its Machiavellian politics, is at it again. Actually I think it's worse than Rats in the Ranks, said Greens councillor Jamie Parker, who last week prematurely was claiming the mayoralty. Today the former deputy mayor is licking his wounds -- a victim of a controversial deal between Labor, the Liberals and two Independents to ensure the Greens are locked out of power." He's got mentions in multiple papers over at least 5 years, 1999-2004. I don't know him from a hole in the ground, but this seems like notability to me.--uɐɔlnʌɟoʞǝɹɐs 18:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, could you at least pick one or two of them which in your opinion have enough in-depth coverage for writing a biography? Google hits alone don't say much - I looked at some of the results, they seem to confirm that he's a local politician, but these usually wouldn't be considered notable. --B. Wolterding 18:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete, fails WP:BIO. Candidates for state/federal election are not inherently notable. He's active in his party but any claim to national notability is fairly marginal. --Dhartung | Talk 21:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Clearly not notable--the student political role is not sufficiently important, the position of a small municipal council is not either, and just the same about the election failures. If he ever succeeds, then there can be an article. DGG (talk) 00:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. Falls short of notability standards at the moment. If he is successful in Port Jackson, he would then have a claim to an article. He would be worth a mention in an article about the election in Port Jackson. Capitalistroadster 01:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Mattinbgn\talk 01:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Keep As a former deputy mayor, he meets "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage" under WP:BIO. Assize 02:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Deputy mayors (or even mayors) don't cut it - needs to be state or federal MP to achieve notability through office. Orderinchaos 13:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Where in WP:BIO does it say that? Elected politicans at State and Federal levels are automatically notable for some arcane reason. The next rider to WP:BIO is "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage". You wouldn't need this rider if it didn't intend to pick up politicans outside the federal and state spheres. If he is not a major politcal figure, why does he pop up on TV and in newspapers so often? One doesn't have to be an elected politician to change things politically thank goodness. Assize 02:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Deputy mayors (or even mayors) don't cut it - needs to be state or federal MP to achieve notability through office. Orderinchaos 13:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete DGG sums up my thoughts succinctly. -- Mattinbgn\talk 03:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete WP:BIO and yet more Greenscruft (those of us who watch political articles in Australia are well aware of the vast number of non-notable articles on Greens candidates). Orderinchaos 13:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:BIO. Per Above. Twenty Years 10:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Deb 12:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Unless some of the UN stuff is referenced. Tiptopper 00:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
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