Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Wilhoit

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. —Wknight94 (talk) 17:44, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] James Wilhoit

James Wilhoit (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

non notable collegiate athlete. fails WP:BIO ccwaters 18:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete. Hasn't done anything great, doesn't seem to have been too major to the team. If he gets to the NFL, then yeah, sure, but not now. DoomsDay349 18:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Subject of the article fails WP:BIO. Hello32020 20:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom -- Whpq 21:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep Part of the Wikipedia College football project, as you will soon see. CJC47 22:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
BTW, he is an all conference, 4 year starter for a major college team. He's going to the NFL... not just some random special teams player at Directional Michigan. This is the wrong battle to fight CJC47 16:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails notability reqs as he does not play professionally and is not notable for another reason. I love college football, but if Wiki had an article for every college football starter.... Yikes. --Jeff 05:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
    • There are 150 first team all conference players each year from BCS conferences. 234 players will be drafted by the NFL. By contrast, there are over 2000 anime stubs, 1000 Pokemon articles, and 4000 articles about music singles released in the 2000s. There are 3200 album covers that start with the letter A. Somehow, I don't think the onslaught of the few CFB player articles will cause us big problems. BigDT 05:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Conditional Keep if he wins a major national award for this year (they'll almost all be announced before the end of next week) or the article can be fleshed out with a lot more detail quickly. Otherwise, I don't think the player is notable and the article should be deleted. z4ns4tsu\talk 16:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Most awards were announced earlier tonight; Wilhoit was a semifinalist, but not a finalist, for the Lou Groza Award. Art Carmody of Louisville won. AUTiger ʃ talk/work 05:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep meet criteria set forth by policy WP:BIO: "People who satisfy at least one of the items below may merit their own Wikipedia articles, as there is likely to be a good deal of verifiable information available about them and a good deal of public interest in them. Where one of the criteria is: "Sportspeople/athletes/competitors who have played...at the highest level in mainly amateur sports or other competitive activities that are themselves considered notable, including college sports in the United States." As such, he meets the criteria for notability which was established in the article. --MECU≈talk 03:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Obvious Keep - All-everything kicker for a 1A college football program. In addition to meeting the criterion cited by MECU, he also meets the featured in multiple non-trivial works criterion. [1] [2] [3] If you search on Wilhoit's name in Google News, you get those three articles that are just about Wilhoit in the first two pages of results. It's a foregone conclusion that he's going to be in the NFL. He's won multiple awards and is one of the top 5 or 6 kickers in the country. He's obviously notable. BigDT 05:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - If he hadn't received freshmen All-American honors though, I would say delete. We can't go having articles about every college football player, 4 year starter or not. My personal minimum requirements for notability of college athletes is if they had All-American honors, less than that opens the door for hundreds of thousands of articles being made. VegaDark 05:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Marginal Keep - he had an above-average (although not stellar) collegiate career and it appears he's probably going to be an NFL player. AUTiger ʃ talk/work 05:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - Meets all notability requirements for athletes which have been previously stated.--NMajdan•talk 13:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm intrigued by this edit to WP:BIO that I just noticed. Prior to that edit I always interpreted WP:BIO as: professional competition is the preferred cut off, unless the sport is a mostly non-pro activity (track, bobsledding, etc). That would weed out most college football players, unless they are notable in their own right (expected high draft, national level awards, record holding, maybe a blue chip draft prospect that had an unexpected career altering incident). I'm not sure what the intent of that edit is or if its widely endorsed. ccwaters 15:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
    • I take that edit to mean things like chess. In other words, the standard applied whether the activity is considered a sport or not. Bobby Fischer, for example, is obviously notable, even though there is no professional league of chessplayers. BigDT 16:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.