Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James A. Collins

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. PeaceNT 04:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] James A. Collins

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Person of questionable notability creating an article about himself. There has been confusion on whether he intends the page to be in article or user space (see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:James Albert Collins); it seems to be the former, so I believe a new nomination is warranted. Procedural nomination - no vote. - Mike Rosoft 20:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, no apparent biographical notability. Locally accomplished opera singer, but not much to go on. --Dhartung | Talk 06:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Article still does not assert notability and remains unreferenced despite my advice and the previous drama of his article-formatted userpage being nominated at MFD. Note that an IP user has removed the AFD tag. Maralia 14:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
• Comment. The author (I'm almost positive it is just the IP of the user) has since removed the tag twice. I can revert some, but being unfamiliar with 3RV... — NovaDog — (contribs) 20:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Obviously, per lack of any notability. Jmlk17 10:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Userfy to his talk page, youthful eagerness is notable, so is this effort but the subject itself does not seem be. Perhaps one day ... grasshopper. Benjiboi 10:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • No, don't move the page into user space in this way; moving the page into article space with a comment "I want it to be an artical not a userpage" makes his intentions clear. Perhaps extract this revision and userfy it. - Mike Rosoft 10:36, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Concur. The user did listen to the feedback in MfD case and the situation was resolved; if someone could lecture about this, it'd be highly appreciated, as, alas, I'm not in the condition to do that right now. =/ --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 10:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if userification of an otherwise deletable article will do any good unless the notability actually can be established eventually; sorry to be cynic, but such userfied articles frequently tend to stay in user space and not get improved at all in this regard. We're not a web host. Plus, this article already existed as an user page and MfD consensus was heavily toward "inappropriate use of user page", article-format-v.-user-page-format issues notwithstanding; if it's pushed back to user space, at least stick it into a subpage.
    In summary: It might fly as an user subpage if the user in question actually tackles the issues; if not, as frequently is the case, the resulting MfD would be a particularly open-and-shut deletion. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 10:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, serious conflict-of-interest issues, lack of sources to back up wider notability. These issues need to be fixed very soon. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 10:57, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - Is there even a claim of notability? Sang solos in school. In the church choir. Sings at the old folks home. He's scheduled to appear in a play. All nice things, but not really notable. Glaring Conflict of interest problems. --Onorem♠Dil 11:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. (Not voting twice!) — NovaDog — (contribs) 19:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.