Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jack Hobson-Dupont
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete and end the madness before someone gets hurt. I realize this debate has not matured to its full 5 days, but 3.5 more days of this will lead to the inevitable deletion as this subject qualifies as a Speedy A7 (bio) anyway. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Jack Hobson-Dupont
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Non-notable author. Few Ghits. Books seem largely self published. Xdenizen (talk) 01:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Great write-up. Top notch author who has long deserved credit for his honest and insightful narratives. Couldn't put down his last book and wouldn't be surprised if it finds mainstream appeal with the right packaging. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.179.143.85 (talk • contribs) — 76.179.143.85 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. User also blanked this AfD
- As a young sailor growing up on Nantucket Island, I was fortunate to know Jack Hobson-Dupont. His book, The Piloting Workbook: 3,500 Exercises in Coastwise Navigation: A Practical Course of Study and Review for Both Beginners and Experienced Navigators, encouraged me to find success in racing 420 sailboats and later working as the Head Adult Sailing Instructor for Nantucket Community Sailing during the summers of 2005 and 2006. With personal instruction from Jack Hobson-Dupont, I have furthered my knowledge in sailing and recently was awarded a 50-ton Master's license with a Towing Endorsement from the United States Coast Guard, making me a Merchant Marine Officer. I am thankful to his teachings and base my financial success around my trust in the knowledge learned from him. Captainconnor (talk) 19:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC) — Captainconnor (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Jack Hobson Dupont's The Benzo Book changed my life and the lives of many others as can be seen on the website www.thebenzobook.com. The guestbook on this sight offers just a small sample of the people who this book has touched. Although I realize the original wikipedia entry was lacking in information, I am a connoisseur of books on Nantucket. I knew several Nantucket-related books had featured chapters devoted to Hobson-Dupont and his status as one of Nantucket's most noteable authors. Looking through my library this morning, I was able to find the chapters pertaining to Hobson-Dupont in both Nancy Newhouse's We Are Nantucket: Oral Histories of Life on Nantucket Island and Jean Berrouet's Here's to Nantucket. These books offer some important biographical information on Jack's life and offer informative quotes from interviews with the author himself. These sources enabled me to flesh-out the Wikipedia article and I now believe the article serves as a significant addition to Wikipedia.--Biggytre (talk) 20:43, 4 March 2008 (UTC) — Biggytre (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Does anyone have any further reccomendations for improving the page? I think it looks good right now. Solid summary of Hobson-Dupont's early life, writing career, and current status. The references look good. The two book's that have featured chapter's on Hobson-Dupont and his work help add substance to the Wikipedia page.--Biggytre (talk) 20:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Having been addicted to benzos and tranquilizers at one point myself, Hobson's book and personal discussions I have had with the man spearheaded my quest to get clean. I can attest to the validity of his publications and the hope of getting his message to other people. The more people exposed to Hoboson's publications the better. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bshepp (talk • contribs) — Bshepp (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Note to closing admin: 76.179.143.85 (talk · contribs), Captainconnor (talk · contribs), Biggytre (talk · contribs) and Bshepp (talk · contribs) would all appear to be the same person. ➨ REDVEЯS dreamt about you last night 22:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Note to closing admin: The users listed above are not the same person. I had informed several individuals whom I had met online through our appreciation of Hobson-Dupont's work and informed that I had created a wikipedia page for the author. I was hoping they would give me some positive feedback + provide any additional information they found relevant. I did not intend for them to post positive messages supporting Jack's work in this thread. I think this is simply a case of them misunderstanding the purpose of the thread. I am well aware this forum is not decided by majority vote. --Biggytre (talk) 22:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This is still regarded as sockpuppeting/meatpuppeting. All accounts mentioned above have been blocked indefinitely and the article creator has received a 1 week block.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 01:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- DELETE I can't find anything about this guy that isn't either him pushing his books are prob. naive medical websites uncritically passing it along. Mangoe (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Magoe, the entire point of Wikipedia is too use sources to back up your argument. If you "can't find anything about this guy" then you probably haven't read either the book by Newhouse or the book by Berrouet (listed in the references section of the Hobson-Dupont article), both of which dedicate a chapter to Hobson-Dupont. What are these so called sites you speak of that are "naive medical websites?
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- Actually, Mr. H-D, I have checked every reference in the article to the degree possible on-line. We Are Nantucket, ostensibly a collection of oral histories, is obviously not sufficient to establish the kind of notability needed; also, this article claims that it is self-published. The Piloting Workbook is real, but given that I get a single page of hits, it didn't make much of a splash. Referencing your own book website obviously gets us nowhere. The next tow links (by my count) are a service directory and a list of real estate transactions. The Kerry Hallam website also doesn't get us anywhere. The last ref doesn't seem to prove what it's claimed to; indeed, it doesn't seem to be a reference at all. So what we've got here is a lot of nothing. Mangoe (talk) 01:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Save Tranquilizer addiction clearly doesn't receive the same press as say cocaine or heroin addiction, but has more potential for affecting a much greater segment of the population, and is clearly no laughing matter. While it is true that Jack Hobson-Dupont isn't an established research scientist, his writing does have potential to help those, as it has helped my sister, sharing addiction issues similar to his. This Wikipedia article is useful in that it helps parties interested Jack's book to learn more about the author. (deleted) 21:29, 5 March 2008 (UTC)— 24.241.23.235 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete non-notable according to what is in the article coupled with some research of my own. --Fredrick day (talk) 14:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete self-published author who does not meet WP:BIO --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 14:23, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete: Wholly non-notable. This AfD is infested with socks. seicer | talk | contribs 14:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Strong delete as a non-notable author. I think I may be finally able to find my missing socks from my laundry here too. Wildthing61476 (talk) 15:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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