Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/It Was Always Me

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. KrakatoaKatie 03:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] It Was Always Me

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CSD-A7 denied. Film that was never released, WP:NF says it shouldn't have an article unless the failure of the film was notable. WP:N requires reliable, independent sources, of which I can't find many through online searching. — alex.muller (talk • edits) 19:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 20:43, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. I can't find any reliable sources attesting to the existence of this. It doesn't even appear on Dushku's IMDB page. Fails WP:V. Deor (talk) 21:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep. It Was Always Me - Don't Delete. Hi, this is in regards to the page for It Was Always Me. It has been tagged for deletion, I want you to not delete it. I have added enough info on there proving that it is a valid film that has starred name talent. By not deleting the information on it, it can still 'exist' and will therefore hopefully be released commercially in some form at some point. Fans of the actors involved, or who may be interested in the filmmaker[s] behind the project still need to have online proof that this film was made. Lol, lets not make this movie a total 'ghost film'.—Preceding unsigned comment added by YuleT (talk • contribs) 01:42, January 14, 2008

Umm, according to those "reviews" (which appear to be Usenet posts), the film features one "Elizabeth Doushku", not Eliza Dushku. My opinion remains unchanged. Deor (talk) 02:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I've struck out YuleT's recommendation to keep since he has decided to change it to delete, as seen below. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete.... Hmmm... this one gets my Spidey-Sense tingling. Checking out the reviews provided, the first one is a hoax: Claimed by a columnist for the Toronto Horizon, which apparently was a made up paper. The movie posters pictured in the article DO feature Eliza Dushku, but I own some nice graphics programs too. The second reference provided by the article, apparently from a paper called the Quebec Daily is apparently also bullshit as well. The third reference shows me NOTHING meaningful beyond a bunch of bland quotes from people who may or may not be real, and who may or may not have said them. IMDB has nothing on this, and a google search: [1] turns up NOTHING but a few blogs, which may or may not have been taken in by the hoax. What do y'all think? --Jayron32|talk|contribs 03:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

It's also rather odd that the only reviews anywhere on the Web by Magda Olufson and Erich Morgan are the reviews cited in this article. And just for the hell of it, I did a search for the first three person/publication combos on the "official archived page" ("Timothy Handler" +"London Times"; "Helene Marceau" +"Parisian Daily"; and "Erick Griffin" +"Toronto Star"). Zero ghits all around. Deor (talk) 03:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:N -- I've sought references for this film through Google and Access World News, but I was not able to find any valid mention whatsoever about the film. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Clear failure of WP:MOVIE. Even without the excellent analysis provided by Jayron32 above, the external links are completely non-credible. Doctorfluffy (talk) 02:56, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. After looking over things again. I change my view and think that this should be deleted. While I'm sure that the film actually exists, any film that is this much work to prove as 'real' clearly doesn't want to be 'found' :P. Let's just delete it until it gets a commercial release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by YuleT (talk • contribs) 03:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.