Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Issues in American football

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus for specific action, can (and probably should) be merged at editorial discretion. Chick Bowen 02:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Issues in American football

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Mostly WP:NOR. This article uncomfortable jams together a couple different topics with very little ref material. Torc2 01:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• Delete or rename and merge - The injury section of this can go into American_Football#Physicality (or can be renamed to Health issues in American Football or something similar. The bottom paragraph is specifically about the NFL and has nothing to do with health or the sport itself. It should be merged to National Football League. Torc2 01:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• Keep doesn't have to just cover NFL but also college and high school football. ThHere could be a good article here... this stuff is certainly written about all the time. Need for cleanup isn't a reason to delete. --W.marsh 01:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to other articles and delete. The title is just too general and vague. Part of it could go to start up Steroids in football (following the example of Steroids in baseball), and the rest per Torc2. Clarityfiend 02:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
  • We can't merge and delete... per Help:Merge "Merging — regardless of the amount of information kept — should always leave a redirect or, in some cases, a disambiguation page in place. This is often needed to allow proper attribution through the edit history for the page the merged text came from." Deleting after a merge would violate the GFDL. --W.marsh 02:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
    • We cannot do that though, per the GFDL, the edit history must be preserved. --W.marsh 13:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

That's for a full article merger. We're just talking about the information contained within the article. It's more acurate to say "delete the article and move the stuff worth saving to other articles." Torc2 04:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

But we cannot do that. Moving implies copying over the text, if we do that, we have to preserve the article history. --W.marsh 16:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment How do you redirect if it is proposed that it be merged into multiple articles? Clarityfiend 23:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• Keep and rename the "health" part and merge the remainder as suggested above. Obviously this is an issue important enough to warrant its own wikipedia entry. Afasmit 05:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to appropriate game articles. Speciate 07:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep I tend to agree with the nominator that this article seems to cram in too many things, combining health issues with a totally unrelated matter about the monopoly the NFL has on its broadcasting rights. There seems to be a good start on what the author describes as "health issues". Mandsford 20:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to article on American football.--Bedivere 22:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• That's a pretty large article already... merging would cause people to have "issues", creating a paradox of some sort Mandsford 15:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.