Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Israeli war crimes

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Deleted as POV fork. --Cyde↔Weys 03:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Israeli war crimes

It's too early to decide whether Israel committed war crimes in the ongoing conflict with Lebanon. Therefore this page should be deleted. If in time it would become obvious Israel committed such crimes, this page can be remade. Sijo Ripa 21:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. For the above reasons. Sijo Ripa 21:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect - This page was created for POV and trolling. Redirect to Accusations against Israel of war crimes during the Al-Aqsa Intifada.
  • Don't Feed the troll ;) --Pifactorial 22:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
• Agree - the "conflict" hasn't even been declared as a war yet! How can there be war crimes? Martinp23 21:59, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

How many times do I have to reapeat myself? This is not only about the current Lebanese conflict, but what happens on a regular basis in Gaza and other occupied territories. Either keep the article, either move it the Israeli army terrorism. 22:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Greier (talk • contribs)

• Delete and see WP:SOAPBOX. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 22:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Accusations against Israel of war crimes during the Al-Aqsa Intifada. No reason for it for the current conflict. - RPIRED 22:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. per Humus. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 01:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - wrong information
• Delete - NPOV violations, no citations, this page contains trolling.
• Delete - inherently POV, no citations, full of OR. Isarig 21:05, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Pifactorial. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 22:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete inherently POV --rogerd 03:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete inherently POV Eli5050 15:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

• This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 13:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete — Personal essay; inherent PoV bias. Undoubtedly intended as another Israeli-bashing propaganda piece. There's enough hate sites on the web already, thank you. :-P — RJH (talk) 14:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete POV fork - CrazyRussian talk/email 15:13, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete per POV 205.157.110.11 15:36, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete POV. This is a current event and little is known about it Lurker 15:48, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete if there were any real content it would be POV. MLA 17:34, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Pile on delete POV fork BigDT 18:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete POV bias. JungleCat Image:Texasflaginstate.png 18:22, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, POV. hateless 19:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, POV and unsaveable. Carlossuarez46 20:28, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and create a redirect per above. -- nae'blis _(talk) 22:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Weak keep: There have been accusations of Israeli war crimes for decades, against the Palestinians particularly. The article as it is needs a NPOV rewrite and to be more encompassing to match the article name, but has potential. Perhaps though, it should be renamed to Accusations of Israeli war crimes? --Kickstart70-T-C 23:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete and Protect until such time as Isreal has been accused of war crimes by the The Hague. --Pboyd04 00:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong delete and early close per WP:SNOW, not only is this a POV fork, but there is an overwhelming consensus to close. Israel hasn't been indicted for war crimes by the Hague, so unless that happens, this article can only be POV. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 05:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Nothing can legitimately be closed per WP:SNOW, and this has barely been here 24 hours, there's plenty that may happen between now and the end of the week. --badlydrawnjeff talk 10:57, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - UN warning on Mid-East war crimes. War crimes could have been committed in Lebanon, Israel and Gaza, a senior UN official has said.[1]. I fail to see how a pool could have any significance to wheter the article should stay or be deleted. Leaving aside the insults and names I`ve been called, I can say that judging by the most of the anti- reasons given, it shows that those users can actually contribute to the NOPV of the article, rather than call it POV, ignore it and delete it. The other reason given for deletion is that "This is a current event and little is known about it". This is like the third time I repeat: this is not only about the current situation, but about the history of proven or alleged Israeli war crimes, including this episode. Anyway, if it is deleted, I will make it again... either imediatelly, either as soon as U.N. issues a press release. Greier 14:57, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete inherently POV --PiMaster3 15:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Than make it NPOV Greier 15:27, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Delete POV fork --Tewfik^Talk 15:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - POV fork GabrielF 15:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep --HarisM 15:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete-Why isnt there an article on Hezbolla War Crimes? They are shooting rockets at Israeli civilians and kidnapping soldiers to use in negotiations, against the Geneva Conventions. Having an Israeli War Crimes article without a Hezbolla one is anti-semetic and wrong! XtoZ 15:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete inherently POV, factual basis questionable, no content -Preposterous 16:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - An article with this name would be legitimate, but in its current condition it's POVed beyond recognition, not to mention the fact it only states one alleged war crime, pertaining to an event on which you can find a more comprehensive and balanced information in 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict. Tamuz ^(Talk) 18:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - If there is concern about objectivity, edit the page (add counter argument)! Deleting this article would only discredit Wikipedia's already tarnished credibility. Sohailstyle 23:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Delete. This article violates NPOV (no mention of Hezbollah atrocities).
• Strong Keep Article has many valid points and references UN findings. Those claiming POV seem to not to like the statements made by official members of the UN. Supersean
• Delete Quite the POV fork! I think an article called, say, Accusations of war crimes in the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict might be more NPOV and could explore both sides with actual cited material! Fishhead64 06:07, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Rename to something with "alligations of" and "in the Israel-Lebanon conflict" in it, balance out alligations between both sides. Deleting it will only have partisens creating it later on. NPOVing it will preemtivly create a merge target, just like the Movement to impeach George W. Bush page does.--Rayc 15:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete extreme POV ObsidianOrder 02:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.