Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic totalitarianism

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was to merge it into MANIFESTO: Together facing the new totalitarianism. --Abu-Fool Danyal ibn Amir al-Makhiri 15:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic totalitarianism

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This is one of those unfortunate articles which are doomed to have the dread POV tag at the top of the article forever. In addition, there is barely any content here. As Wikipedia is not a dictionary, I see no justification for this POV article. Instead, the material about the term and the manifesto can be merged into Islamism (might not be appropriate there either, I'm not sure) or Salman Rushdie (who apparently coined the term) if deemed significant, as the material here pertains to that political ideology, rather than Islam in specific. Also the article on MANIFESTO: Together facing the new totalitarianism already exists, which is basically a copy of this article about the very same issue. Khorshid 03:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

This one is a sock of Patchouli (talk · contribs). The Behnam 17:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The article seems clear, and the POV obvious and not harmful.DGG 06:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge as a redirect with MANIFESTO: Together facing the new totalitarianism. But I'm not sure which name should survive. Why do we have two almost identical articles with different names? This is what redirects are for. The article should be about the manifesto and anyone who wants to add content about Islamism should add content at Islamism. That article is 47 KB long, so it's probably inappropriate to merge content into it.Noroton 06:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Noroton, the other title makes the source evident, which goes some way to allaying the neutrality concerns. Guy (Help!) 09:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Norton. The MANIFESTO: Together facing the new totalitarianism should be there. If Islamic totalitarianism survives, it needs to be about that term, not about the Manifesto. Perhaps rather than a redirect, it could be a disambig page pointing people to Islamism for the term and the Manifesto page for the manifesto. (But that would require the Islamism page to refer to the term and the manifesto.) BobFromBrockley 10:26, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Norton. Will work better as a redirect. ffm ✎talk 13:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Noroton's excellent reasoning. Arkyan • (talk) 15:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge per Norton.RaveenS 17:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - Definitely a neologism... basically a term used by Rushdie and his friends (perhaps a few polemics as well). The Behnam 18:04, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Redirect and invoke WP:SNOW to close. As mentioned, majority notice they are basically same article. SNOW due to redirect cannot work until AFD is close. George Leung 00:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete: 1) neologism and therefore not Wiki-suitable; 2) if coined by Rushdie, as cited above, then fails 9and will always fail) NPOV as being a species of attack-page phrase. Burn and salt. -- 62.25.109.196 08:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete neologism and most content is already in MANIFESTO: Together facing the new totalitarianism --Webkami 17:06, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • keep Clearly a notable term. recognized by BBC News.--Sefringle 21:30, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or merge. Wikipedia is neither a dictionary nor a collection of contemporary political epithets. That many similar articles have been allowed to persist is unfortunate, and speaks to the chronic dysfunction of a community which is only intermittently willing to enforce its own policies. I am glad to see that this one, at least, appears headed to the dustbin.Proabivouac 21:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete This is one of Patchouli (talk · contribs)'s articles. I think it should be deleted per Proabivouac.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 02:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep This article should be kept but expanded upon. CDMS 09:27, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge unless evidence that this term has widespread use and meaning outside of aforementioned manifesto. Smmurphy(Talk) 16:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.