Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islamic leadership

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep - crz crztalk 23:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic leadership

Islamic leadership (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

It reads like a large piece of original research, prohibited per WP:OR. Worse, it is almost completely unverified and unreferenced, see WP:V. Moreschi 12:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. MER-C 12:53, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep. I see no OR here but rather a well-written article about the historical devlopment of the concept of religious leadership in Islam. The title is somewhat vague but the body of the article leaves no doubt as to the concept at issue. Allon Fambrizzi 13:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Allon Fambrizzi
• Keep Agree with Allon; likely a misnamed article. Should be renamed and be given clearer context. Akihabara 13:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The article needs references and several sections need to be developed, and I agree that the concept of "Islamic leadership" should be better defined in the lead, but the subject seems encyclopedic and worthy of inclusion. - Eron ^Talk 13:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Tentative Keep Stubify Not well-written but seems to be an encyclopedic topic. To be a well-written encyclopedia article, the content needs to begin from reliable references, not whatever the editors know off the top of their head. Article currently almost entirely lacks references for what should be a topic much written about in external sources. Stubify to allow a new start Bwithh 15:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Notable topic, just needs work. SupaStarGirl 15:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per all above. This is not original research (novel connections between facts), this is simply an article without many references. --Dhartung | Talk 16:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I must disagree. It is as novel as an article about 'American Leadership', which claims that all Presidents of the US have had something in common because they swore an oath to uphold the same document. Hornplease 05:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Not encyclopedic, not referenced, not verifiable. Unless someone is volunteering to re-write in an encyclopedic manner, I almost think this would be more work to cleanup than to start over from scratch (so maybe delete and re-submit as an Article for Creation?). Deltopia 23:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Delete. Please. Not only is this OR, it will always be OR. Its not an encyclopaedic topic if nobody bothers to think of "leadership" as having certain aspects particular to Islam. Hornplease 08:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - cleanup not a reason to delete.Bakaman 18:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. This is not OR, this is somewhat over-simplistic analysis that could be sourced ad infinitum, obviously having been debated by the various sects for centuries. There's surely a good deal more to say than this one line summaries; but I do not like to delete an article about a worthy topic because it is ill-written. The way to do it is not to stubify; they way to do it is to keep the outline and add sourced material. DGG 06:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.