Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irish Catholic

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. Mo0[talk] 17:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irish Catholic

Pointless article as it is perfectly clear what the two words indicate Delete. Arniep 02:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. The many Irish Citizens don't have their own article. Even Catholics don't (it's a redirect). -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 02:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Delete. "A=A" dictdef. Will reconsider if expansion is made to break out from its current simplistic dictdef state -- Saberwyn - 03:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. Nice save -- Saberwyn
    • As I was a part of that, thanks. Although while working on it I started wondering if maybe this should just be a subsection of Irish diaspora. I added a bit about unique historical properties of Catholicism in Ireland itself to differentiate from that some, and there are other differences. So I guess not as "Irish Catholic" is in an odd sense an ethnicity as much as a religious term. I remember some Irish-American movie where the Dad smacked his kid for saying something about Catholicism and the kid said "But Dad you're an atheist" and in response the Dad said "Just because I stopped believing in God, doesn't mean I stopped being an Irish Catholic" or some such.--T. Anthony 08:15, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nomination. — Moe ε 03:27, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Irish Catholics are a notable social group distinguished from other people of Irish descent in the US and other types of Catholics. Right now the article does not offer much more than a dictdef, but I'm sure it could be expanded to something worth keeping.--Bkwillwm 04:35, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep with expand tag. Linked to by more than a hundred articles -- Astrokey44|talk 05:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bkwillwm and Astrokey. Logophile 06:32, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bkwillwm and Astrokey. Topic has lots of potential. Note, there's also well-developed articles for Irish American and Irish Australian, which overlap this group. ×Meegs 07:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bkwillwm and Astrokey. NoIdeaNick 07:13, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

• Keep per Bkwillwm and Astrokey. Where I'm from (Chicago), this is a frequently-used term. Zagalejo 15:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bkwillwm. Crunch 15:02, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bkwillwm and Astrokey. Outside of Ireland, "Irish Catholic" constitutes an important ethnic culture and identity, well worth an article, and this is a start. Smerdis of Tlön 15:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per Bkwillwm B.ellis 21:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep it's a recognisable and well-known social group. Needs work, as above. Just zis  Guy, you know? ^[T]/_[C] AfD? 22:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment Maybe a merge with an Irish culture page? Kerowyn 00:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. Notable ethnicity. Cnwb 00:25, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. I go to an Irish Catholic school in Australia and the term is widely used. --Rob McKay 01:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Definite keep per above. Possibly disambig to the newspaper of the same name. Stifle 17:30, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Would some of you quit deleting everything on Wikipedia, already. It's a decent article and there are millions of Irish Catholics around the world. The article bears relevance to many. Merge isn't bad but do not merge it either. It warrants its own article. Sonustar
• Merge and Redirect to Irish Diaspora. My family is of Irish Catholic stock, but I think the root of Irish Catholics as a group stems from the Diaspora. The Diaspora article is more comprehensive. I came to this article from the Tommy Hilfiger article, but I suspect in his case (along with many others) he could be linked to Irish American. I don't buy the arguments from Astrokey or BKwillwm. No offense. --Barista | a/k/a マイケル | T/C 03:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.