Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ireland Unfree

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete, merge possible I guess. I'm removing the lyrics... but they'll still be in the article history. W.marsh 14:11, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ireland Unfree

Three specimen articles nominally describing Irish republican songs. There are a number of articles of the same pattern, ie a one sentence introduction followed by fifty lines of lyrics (see Irish rebel music for a shedload), but none seem to have been through AfD. WP:NOT a collection of lyrics or a thinly disguised soapbox. Mr Stephen 15:36, 26 July 2006 (UTC) Also for consideration:

  • Delete per nom. Thε Halo Θ 16:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 16:05, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - These are apparently marching songs, and so would seem to have historical signifigance. The articles certainly need improvement otherwise; see The Battle Hymn of the Republic for a good article of this genre. SB_Johnny | talk 12:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Comment: Hmm, that is an interesting point. --HResearcher 15:05, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Yeah, right. For example, "Ireland Unfree" appears to be written by Brian Warfield (of the Wolfe Tones), see [1] & [2]. The Wolfe Tones only formed in 1963 [3], but maybe historical signifigance starts earlier these days. Mr Stephen 20:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep per User:SB_Johnny's comment. --HResearcher 15:07, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 23:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge Individual songs without context are not articles. Dlyons493 Talk 02:46, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, possibly merge per above. Remove any copyvio lyrics (at least I assume that 60's songs are still copyrighted). Sandstein 08:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. No references. Almost seems like some average Joe made it up. Green caterpillar 22:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not a repository of song lyrics, and these song articles do not assert notability (were they hits? have they achieved lasting popularity or cultural significance like the Battle Hymn? were any of them controversial?) Demiurge 00:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Provisional keep, after checking the copyright status of any lyrics quoted in full. "Similar" songs such as Croppies Lie Down have articles of their own, and songs of similar note from the other sides of the conflict also deserve articles. Any claim of non-notability should be made on an individual rather than a class basis at minimum. Smerdis of Tlön 04:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete if not copyvio and these can be sourced, transwiki to wikisource. Pure lyrics do not an article make. Carlossuarez46 01:25, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.