Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Intelligent Musicians

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 00:16, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Intelligent Musicians

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Unencyclopedic list. The information isn't of particular note in itself, largely unsourced and begins from the unreferenced premise that "most people" assume musicians aren't smart. Marwood 09:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Delete List is purely opinion. Also assumes that holding an advanced degree guarantees intelligence. Faithlessthewonderboy 09:37, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Sounds like it belongs in a magazine, not an encyclopedia. Subjective criteria anyway. 17Drew 10:34, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --PEAR (talk) 11:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. First of all, the title should be Musicians with academic degrees or such. Having a degree obviously does not imply high intelligence. However, even an article titled thusly would be pure listcruft. --Targeman 12:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete violation of neutral point of view and unattributed. Carlosguitar 12:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Fundamentally flawed. From the article: "Most people pass off a lot of musicians are average intelligence," Uh, what? Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • delete per everyone above, basically. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 15:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per everyone, plus BLP concerns regarding the musicians who aren't listed! Iain99 16:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Cool, Gene Simmons was an English teacher? But yeah, it should be deleted because of the subjective criteria of an "intelligent" musician. Spellcast 17:40, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment The name of the current article is absurd, but a List of musicians with an advanced degree or List of musicians who have taught at the college level or something to that effect seems NPOV and easily verified. Eliz81(talk)(contribs) 18:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Yeah, but what's the connection that makes this an encyclopedic topic? Why this and not Dance coreographers with a commercial driving license or Ship captains who have been to seminary school or Hockey goalies licensed to style hair? Based on the intro, this seems to exist to prove musicians aren't dumb, which seems to be pretty POV right from its foundations. Besides, if it really extended to all musicians such as classical performers rather than mostly rockers as it does now, the list would be huge. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 20:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.