Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Infamous people associated with Harvard

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was speedy delete. Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infamous people associated with Harvard

Forever POV list. Originally began with, "The following is a list of people who I think Harvard wishes never attended its school." Was Prod'ed, but creator removed tag and intro sentence -- which doesn't really fix anything. Calton | Talk 00:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete personal attacks - point 9 of WP:CSD#Articles might apply. Otherwise, just delete because of inherent POV-ness, as well as WP:NOR. LjL 01:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete per LjL. Bucketsofg✐ 01:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I don't think, in its current incarnation, it really counts as an "attack page." If the page simply says, "these people did such and such terrible things, and all of said people went to Harvard," then- if only stating truths- it can't really be an attack. Thus, in my opinion, it's not a speedy deletion candidate. However, it's still, in an odd form, listcruft, and (as already stated) it will inherently be POV. -- Kicking222 01:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I agree that it's not really an attack page, but the list is a bit absurd, subtly implying that Harvard University graduates are supposed to be good, perfect people. Perhaps the information could survive as part of a Notable Alumni section of the Harvard University article (although that section should also include positive figures as well). joturner 01:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as attack and redundant. Harvard has a "Notable Alumni" section already, and it contains all the people on this list that have their own wikipedia articles. --User:Chaser (T, C, e) 02:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - but not because it's a personal attack page. Rather, because the concept is better expressed elsewhere in other ways (for example, through Notable Alumni). - Richardcavell 02:28, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. When an article groups murderers together with plagiarists under the category of "infamous people", I think that means its concept is too broad for encyclopedic treatment. --Metropolitan90 03:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete but "Theodore Kaczynski || sent unpleasant packages in the mail" might be funny enough for BJAODN. - CNichols 03:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I go with the notable alumni idea. jbolden1517^Talk 03:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Inherently broad and POV. Grandmasterka 05:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete WP:NPOV violation. Far better to categorise these people as notable alumni of the college and place details as to their notability on their respective article pages.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  05:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Really bad idea and inherently POV. Rockpocket (talk) 06:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete per WP:LIVING: "Administrators encountering articles that are unsourced and negative in tone, where there is no NPOV version to revert to, may delete the article without discussion". --Rob 07:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• BJAODN per CNichols. After that, Speedy Delete. --Icarus 07:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy deleted. This to me looks like a pretty clear violation of WP:LIVING as Rob pointed out, and given that this article exists solely to disparage the people on the list, I think that it is the kind of article WP:CSD A6 is intended to tackle, in spirit if not exactly by letter (e.g. labeling people as being "war criminals" or as having "stolen from sick children". Sjakkalle (Check!) 07:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.