Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indiana University Student Association

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 03:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Indiana University Student Association

Indiana University Student Association (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Non-notable local student government. No reliable sources and no assertion of notability SevernSevern (talk) 22:33, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

• Weak keep— Just barely skims over the bar of WP:N. It appears they've enacted some relevant changes to Indiana University. However, in its current state, it should be marked as a stub. ~ Wakanda's Black Panther! (contribs) 01:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and WP:ORG. The article's only two external links are to (a) an article in the Indiana University alumni magazine which never mentions the IUSA by name and (b) the IUSA's own web site. There may be a potential conflict of interest involved with this article but I'm not certain: approximately one-third of the article is devoted to a single resolution passed by the IUSA in 1996. The name of the student who introduced the resolution matches that of the creator of the article -- although the student's name was added to the article by an anonymous editor. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep RS coverage of the union and its actions spread to Minnesota and Pennsylvania, I think it passes notability via the sourcing required for local orgs TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 05:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of university deletions. —SevernSevern (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep as somewhat notable coverage as Travellingcari mentioned. - Jameson L. Tai ^{talk ♦ contribs} 22:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. —SevernSevern (talk) 04:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:ORG, similar to several AfDs closed as delete the past few days. I would have recommended a merge with Indiana University, but there is insufficient room there. B.Wind (talk) 02:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 12:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

• Keep - I can see potential for this page to grow into something more substantial than it is now. --GHcool (talk) 17:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
• Weak Keep per comments above. The reliable sources linked to above are not that significant in coverage, but the article has potential.—Noetic Sage 22:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
• KeepIf it's the main student organisation its notable and can serve as the place for merging other non-individually notable groups. DGG (talk) 00:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Obviously, as the originator of the article I believe it should be kept. There's a lot more to the work of IUSA over the years than the few things listed. All students are governed by its Code of Conduct and judicial system, for instance. I've invited the current student body president to comment on the importance of IUSA over the years, and hope the SBP and others will contribute to providing more information in the article itself. You're right, it is painfully short at the moment and does not do IUSA justice. Please don't delete the article just because it is underdeveloped. A great deal more could be added on the Vietnam era, based on the IU magazine article's tidbits. Anyone who does a little Herald Times newspaper research during those years will find loads of interesting things that IUSA did during that time. The activism at that time at IU even generated at least one U.S. Supreme Court case on First Amendment matters. The article is a clear keeper, and its brevity should prompt others to dig deeper, not delete the whole thing. Thank you.--MoebiusFlip (talk) 11:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Additional Info: It has also come to my attention that there was a very close IUSA election recently, with the winner coming out ahead by just 120 votes out of 8000 cast. The losers are allegedly making a number of hostile claims, and this attempt to delete the IUSA entry on Wikipedia may be part of a sour grapes campaign. The person who marked it for deletion only joined Wikipedia this month, so the whole matter becomes very suspicious.--MoebiusFlip (talk) 21:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
    • Refutation - No, I'm not from IUSA or Indiana. Since you so cleverly checked my edit history, you can check to see that I nominated several student governments for AFDs. Noting personal or sour grapes about it. User:SevernSevern aka Flunkerton (talk) 17:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keepAlthough I am not heavily involved in the University Wikiproject, I thought I would throw in my two cents so to speak. Having served on a Big Ten Conference student government, I do care about these institutions. I think student activism has played a roll in shaping university, local, state, and even federal policy. In this context, IUSA may be noteable. My suggestion is to give the original editor sometime to prove its noteability. Is it possible to revisit the deletion issue after a few months?H.al-shawaf (talk) 19:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment if kept, the article can be re-nominated for deletion at any time TRAVELLINGCARI^{My story}_{Tell me yours} 19:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.