Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/India (cat)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus. Mackensen (talk) 16:29, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] India (cat)
President's cat!! Not notable by itself --Ragib 23:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: as nominated, or merge with List of United States Presidential pets. --Ragib 23:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom --Nick Y. 00:00, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep - what's wrong with keeping the cat in? I think AfD gets a bit silly sometimes. - Richardcavell 01:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Keep or merge Weak Keep Give it a chance to expand. It needs some more material and sources.Delete per Rama's Arrow and Ragib's comment below. Article is short. --Starionwolf 02:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)- Delete. I've looked through the George W. Bush article and can't see any way you can add a trivial item like this to the article. Cats are not notable in themselves Peripitus 03:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Comment You have a point. I'm not sure if anyone can further expand the page on India. But then Socks has his own page. Bye --Starionwolf 05:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep: Presidential pets are inheritantly notable. There is lots of precedent, for more information and other simillar articles see List of United States Presidential pets. --Hetar 05:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Precedent-schmecedent. Merge into List of United States Presidential pets. I can't see why the two or three lines the mostindividual of these non-sentient animals require cannot be on that page, which can then be the destination of Presidential Pet Historians everywhere. Hornplease 06:16, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've moved what looks like the only relevant piece of information to List of United States Presidential pets ( origin of the name ) - Peripitus 06:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, merge, or rename (the cat too ;), if possible). The current naming of the article is simply unacceptable as it imputes more notability than whatever the cat merits. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Merge and delete per Hornplease. - Ganeshk (talk) 08:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep Has curiousity value. Tintin (talk) 08:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep it, I will expand it!Coby 20:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Maybe we can merge India (cat), Barney (dog), Miss Beazley (dog), and Spot Fetcher together into an article called Bush family pets or something similar. Just a thought. Have a nice day. --Starionwolf 03:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I think all the information about these pets can be merged into List of United States Presidential pets. None of them merit anything other than one or two lines, unless one is going to copy whole pages from whitehouse's website, which interestingly seem to be written for kindergarten kids. All the information about a pet could also be merged as a single sentence to the corresponding president. For example, in case of the subject of this AfD, a line can be added to George W. Bush's page saying he had this cat, named after this player, while he was in white house. Other than that, a separate article devoted to a presidential pet which is only notable in the context of the presidency, is ridiculous. We don't devote a whole page to the animals not notable by their own right. If the info about the animal is interesting, that's only so in the context of the owner. True, there are animals like Jumbo the elephant, or Coco the chimp which are notable by themselves, but certainly, presidential pets are not so. Thanks. --Ragib 04:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Good point. I can help update and maintain the List of Presidential Pets. --Starionwolf 04:21, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think all the information about these pets can be merged into List of United States Presidential pets. None of them merit anything other than one or two lines, unless one is going to copy whole pages from whitehouse's website, which interestingly seem to be written for kindergarten kids. All the information about a pet could also be merged as a single sentence to the corresponding president. For example, in case of the subject of this AfD, a line can be added to George W. Bush's page saying he had this cat, named after this player, while he was in white house. Other than that, a separate article devoted to a presidential pet which is only notable in the context of the presidency, is ridiculous. We don't devote a whole page to the animals not notable by their own right. If the info about the animal is interesting, that's only so in the context of the owner. True, there are animals like Jumbo the elephant, or Coco the chimp which are notable by themselves, but certainly, presidential pets are not so. Thanks. --Ragib 04:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- weak keep borderline notability. Appeared in news (print) as far as I remember.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:22, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Delete the data should be in the President's bio or List of pets, but not separate. Rama's Arrow 15:37, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- Weak keep Not as famous as Socks the Cat (who had books and a video game!), but as a presidential pet certainly receives a lot more press than many of the folks we have bios of. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.