Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imovinn

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete. Redwolf24 06:33, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

In conjunction with Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Truths of Imovinn. nn, (nearly private) belief system. Nets a grand total of 45 Google hits for Imovinn, and two for Truths of Imovinn (no quotes). Basically promotion. Delete -DNicholls 02:59, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

It might also be noted that both entries contain big chunks of copied text from the promoted site.--DNicholls 03:05, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Is it Wikipedia's policy to discriminate against religious belief systems simply on the basis of numbers? Yes, much of the text has been taken from the organization's web site. As it has adequately been described there, I saw no need to reword the descriptions. - Luna Faye

With all due respect to your beliefs, this is just a matter of whether this is an encyclopedic entry. WP is not a place for advertisement, or advocacy, and there must be a bar set for notability, as it is also not an indiscriminate collection of information. Lastly, depending on who is writing this, it could even be considered original research. If the belief system becomes notable, I don't see an impediment to its inclusion, but it's just too soon. Thanks and all the best to you. --DNicholls 03:20, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

• Delete unless someone can prove notability and/or cite some legitimate references. Fernando Rizo T/C 03:19, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Notability not established. android79 03:27, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
• What exactly would you consider "notability or legitimate references"? The Pæthieon of Imovinn is Incorporated by the state of Ohio, and is in the process of being recognized as non-profit under the fedreal 501c3 statute. I happen to be ordained by the Church of Spiritual Humanism and the Universal Life Church, and am registered with the state of Ohio to perform services in all Ohio counties. I hold Doctorates in Divinity and Metaphysics, and am a Certified Reiki Master. How much more "legitimate" would you like? - Luna Faye
  • The discussion is not about the legitamacy of your personal credentials but the notability of the subject matter, and as it stands I don't think the articles establish enough notability to warrant entries. Delete. --TheMidnighters 04:10, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
  • But do you really want to make an issue out of the legitimacy of your personal credentials? Before doing so, you may note that I too am ordained by the Universal Life Church. (So can anyone be; it takes three minutes and costs nothing.) Incidentally, please sign your comments; you do this by hitting the twiddle key four times: ~~~~. -- Hoary 05:16, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, vote for the reasons I mentioned on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Truths of Imovinn. Sirmob 04:07, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete Not Notable. Also POV (see par. 4) In addition, an organization "in the process of being recognized as non-profit under the fedreal (sic) 501c3 statute" is not the same as actually having been granted the status of a non-profit organization. Could be construed as an advertisement. Also, as per the above arguments DNicholls and Fernando Rizzo. Hamster Sandwich 05:05, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, promotion of "religion" of negligible significance. -- Hoary 05:16, July 26, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete all microfaiths (until their leaders have been crucified) --Doc (?) 09:22, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. As above. Agentsoo 09:51, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete as per above. Mmmbeer 14:50, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete for reasons already given jamesgibbon 14:57, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

• Delete: Wikipedia is not a free webhost. Original research is a deletion guideline violation. Thus, Wikipedia is not the place to announce your religion, to negotiate ultimate truth, or to proselytize. In the case of religion, philosophy, and all else, it is discussion and documentation outside of the participants that will generate the need and the possibility for an article. Geogre 18:00, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Well put. I hoist you on my cyber shoulders.Hamster Sandwich 18:41, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per Geogre and the "Truths of" VfD. Barno 00:13, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

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