Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ilirida

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. - Philippe 20:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ilirida

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This article is apparently about an "unofficial region" in the Republic of Macedonia. Yet there are no (real or imagined) borders for this region. After having consulted other users from Macedonia, I can conclude this article deals with a minor concept, which was propagated only by a few irredentists, and has/had not been discussed by any politicians in Macedonia, or any media. Also, most of it is a content fork of Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia. Back to the term, it isn't really a neologism as such, but this article is an attempt at popularising it, or a hoax trying to give undue weight to this concept. BalkanFever 03:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

  • SPEEDY KEEP and DELIST clearly notable, well sourced, national regionNewAtThis (talk) 04:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Note to closing admin: NewAtThis has been indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet. EdJohnston (talk) 17:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Not particularly notable in the Republic of Macedonia, and not a region. It doesn't have any kind of borders. BalkanFever 05:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete per my nom. BalkanFever 05:31, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Uses ethnic maps as any real indication of this so-called "region". Köbra 85 09:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete it is an imaginated political unit.--MacedonianBoy (talk) 09:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete This is separatism, iredentism and nationalism. - Рашо  (Yes?) 14:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - I'll just point out the fact that all the keep-s come from contributors from the Republic of Macedonia in some sort of a co-ordination effort to remove the article. I'm not sure if it's notable or un-fictional enough - it just strikes me as a fact. --Laveol T 15:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment - Then just give your opinion should Ilirida as article be deleted or not. Then we will have one Bulgarian view on the topic. (Toci (talk) 18:06, 30 March 2008 (UTC))
    Comment - Imaginary things are not welcomed on Wikipedia I think. If it like that Wikipedia loses the reputation and the quality, not quantity.--MacedonianBoy (talk) 18:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Keep Is a term used in Albanian Nationalism, article could use clean-up, but it's an actual term than exists beyond this article. Gets 66,300 hits on google, about the same amount as Greater Serbia and a ton more than Greater Slovenia's 357. It's notable if those are. Zazaban (talk) 21:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete - A place that exists in the mind only. I'm from Scotland, and there are some people, such as The Scottish Socialist Party who'd like to see a Socialist Republic of Scotland - no, we don't have such an article, because there's no such place...The concept can be covered in Albanians in the Republic of Macedonia. Also, beware of relying too much on Google (see WP:GOOGLE) - I get 754000 hits for "Brigadoon" - doesn't make it a place, and 1,030,000 for "The world is flat" - nevertheless, she's round. Camillus (talk) 00:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
But there is such a thing as the flat earth society. Also, what those people want is actual Scotland. Zazaban (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, there is an article on United Ireland, which, although it is discussed, does not exist. Should that article be deleted? Zazaban (talk) 19:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
You confuse Ilirida with Greater Albania. BalkanFever 10:06, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.