Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ikachan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus, defaults to Keep. NawlinWiki 13:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ikachan

Ikachan (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Article gives no indication of notability with multiple independent reliable sources. Whispering 17:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep, I just added an independent source, further ones may be found. --Huon 17:34, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete if that's as good as the sourcing is going to get, forget it. One little capsule review on a website (lumped in with other freeware games) won't support an article. Come to think of it, Cave Story and Daisuke Amaya look pretty deletable too. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 17:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep Why exactly are freeware games less deserving of articles? The suggestion that you delete the article on Cave Story, one of the most popular original non-commercial games of recent years is bizarre. The article is worth keeping purely because of Cave Story's popularity. People will want to find information on the creator's other works. Abigsmurf 13:50, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Notability is not established by the article - we can't include every freeware or PD game ever released. The Daisuke Amaya article looks pretty dodgy as well if this game is pretty much the only claim for his notability. EyeSerene^TALK 18:21, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep The source used is the game itself. This game is notable in that it is one of Amaya's earlier works and there is very little information (in English or Japanese) about it on the web - this article serves as the only English page dedicated to it that I know of. --PhoenixJ 20:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment The game itself does not count as an independent, reliable source as mentioned by the notability guidelines. If the game is as popular as claimed, there must surely be more reviews, articles about the game, etc. Find them and add them! They needn't be online; reviews in game magazines will be just as good or even better. They needn't be English, either. Has the Japanese Wikipedia an article on this game? Maybe someone who speaks Japanese could have a look. --Huon 21:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Will do, just give me a few days to collect and summarize everything :) --PhoenixJ 00:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Week keep As I hit google, there are possibly relevent sources on the Web. ([1][2][3][4]) These can be non-trivial, reliable sources in that they are not contributed by random persons nor are they placed on personal websites. In terms of indepency, however, Vector.co.jp stuff are not complete since the game is offered download via the site. Anyway, other two sources are fully independent. --Neko jarashi 15:43, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 16:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Japanese sources would be perfectly acceptable, as long as they are provided with an English translation in the Footnotes (see WP:VERIFY#Sources in languages other than English). This AfD is pretty much up though - and as it stands the two sources that have been added are untranslated. Notability at present remains unestablished. EyeSerene^TALK 09:23, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.