Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Idol series

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep; a note to ZlatkoT (talk · contribs): Articles for Deletion is not a vote, and if you want your input to be considered, please explain why you have "!voted" the way you have. In this case, there is a 100% concensus to keep, given that I'm forced to discard your input. Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 06:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Idol series

Idol series (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Pop Idol spin off tv series fan non notalbe slang name. fancruft, original research, Ghit 63,500, 0hit on fox.com. Furnewsx 22:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

• Keep The article could definitely use some sources, but I don't see anything particularly offensive here- in fact, if you add some references and make it a little less list-y, it's a pretty good article. The fact that the nom is incoherent as comes from a nominator with zero edits outside of creating this AfD is somewhat fishy. -- Kicking222 23:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - if the sources were added, this would be an excellent overview of the worldwide Idol series. The list of unauthorized Idols knock-offs should be its own list article once most of the redlinks are turned into blue. Nominator would have been better off adding a {{references}} tag than dragging it to AfD. B.Wind 03:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep – Disclosure: I'm one of the editors who have worked on the article in the past.
  I definitely agree that the article needs referencing (I've just added a references tag myself after reading this AFD proposal), and it could be less listy, but overall I think it can become a good article with work, and should not be deleted, at least at this time. I'm going to put some effort into it over the next few days to improve it.
  The google search statistics are misleading. Fox.com is only going to mention American Idol, and certainly not anything about other Idol series shows. The overall google hits number could be low because the phrase is reletively new, although 63,000 hist isn't bad, really.
  I would also like to say that maybe the AFD process should be one of the last steps in trying to get a Wikipedia full of good articles, instead of the first, but I suppose that gets to the inclusionist/mergist/deletionist controversy, so forget I said anything. -- ArglebargleIV 14:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per comments above. Also these should be a general article about the Idol Series and not just about the individual versions. - 上村七美 | talk 13:31, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong deleteZlatkoT 09:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
• Strong, speedy keep as per WP:POINT, WP:SNOW, etc. --Howard the Duck 10:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.