Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ibrahim Mousawi

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. (non admin closure). Consensus formed around the sources; that they satisfy notability, and also referenced a detrimental edit to the article previously made by the nominator. WilliamH (talk) 16:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ibrahim Mousawi

Ibrahim Mousawi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

biography of a non notable personage, weasel terms, propaganda for terrorist organization's member Elie plus (talk) 20:45, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Luksuh 21:52, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment — notability should be asserted better in the article; if this is not done, then it should be deleted. Being the spokesman for a notable organization may, as is, qualify for notability. If there's been some parliamentary debate about him specifically, then he might be notable. If Wikipedia had existed in 1928, would Joseph Goebbels been considered notable then? --Vuo (talk) 00:22, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. The references in the article are more than enough to establish notability, and I can't see where this is propaganda - the article is remarkably neutral in tone for such a controversial subject. Also please note that the nominator has previously vandalised this article. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. Moussawi`s visa has been questioned in both the House of Commons (David Cameron, Mr. Amess) and the House of Lords (Lord Strathclyde) (and in a Freedom of Information request, unsuccessfully). I will include that in the article. Additionally, I read that Mousawi was banned from France and the US too, but the sources did not seem reliable enough to me, it could be a confusion with the ban on Al Manar. Still, if Mousawi ever applied for a US visa, he probably would be denied, since he is a former senior editor of Al Manar, a Specially Designated Global Terrorist Entity on the Terrorist Exclusion List. I think Mousawi qualifies for notability (and notoriety). The accusation of propaganda and weasel words is really surprising to me, could somebody point that out? --Shengyi (talk) 15:56, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lebanon-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep The sources are sufficient. (and, FWIW, a/c the Goebbels article, by '28 he'd become the leader of the Nazi party in Berlin. And elected to the Reichstag, which is automatic notability at WP.)DGG (talk) 18:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep per DGG. John254 00:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.