Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/IMMMM

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The result of the debate was - merged - SimonP 15:31, Mar 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] IMMMM

A piece of historical trivia. Orphaned article under a nonsense name, no evidence of notability. Until/unless an article about Janos Jeszenszky is created, its inclusion in an encyclopedia makes no sense. Delete or move to author's talk page. - Mike Rosoft 10:45, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• If the consensus is delete, I will move this to my user space. (I only created the article as a more encyclopedic replacement for the earlier JMMMM, which was complete nonsense, written in Swedish.) — JIP | Talk 12:34, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep if verifiable, possibly rename. Interesting historical footnote. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 12:43, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
• One answer may be to Rename to János Jeszenszky (as per Mike Rosoft ☺) and turn this into a {{bio-stub}} on the person. It depends from who János Jeszenszky actually is, of course. I'll have a look around. Uncle G 12:57, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)
  • Well he's not Jan Jesensky. But he might be Jan Jesenius. Uncle G 13:07, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)
    • I am reasonably sure he's Jan Jesenius. I remember very little from my Hungarian, but the original article mentions the cities of Wroclaw and Praha, and I spotted the word orvos, meaning doctor or physician in Hungarian. — JIP | Talk 13:10, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
      • Then I vote Merge to Jan Jesenius (as per Mike Rosoft and JIP). The resultant redirect will prevent silly re-creations. Uncle G 14:51, 2005 Mar 17 (UTC)
      • Thanks to Uncle G and JIP for finding out what the article is about. I managed to find a Czech article on Jan Jesenius, and it does mention this legend. I am changing my vote to merge and redirect. - Mike Rosoft 15:18, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
        • I agree, merge and redirect to Jan Jesenius. Unfortunately I know only very little Hungarian and no Czech at all. Someone who is better at one or both languages might want to write the relevant section in the Jan Jesenius article. — JIP | Talk 16:25, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Perhaps merge or keep or rename if this can be verified. Also, if Janos said the emperor would die, and the priest said Janos was lying, how can they both be right, as the article implies? -R. fiend 15:38, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • I think that the second prediction being right meant that Jesensky died a horrible death. — JIP | Talk 16:27, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• I have significantly updated the article, based on the Czech source which mentions the legend. - Mike Rosoft 16:37, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Merge to Jan Jesenius. Shimmin 18:45, Mar 17, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep or merge, interesting trivia. Grue 18:48, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Merge to Jan Jesenius as a legend attached to him and delete - Skysmith 10:20, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • In that case, a proper vote would be "merge and redirect" to preserve information about authorship (and to discourage recreation of the previous nonsense article). - Mike Rosoft 12:15, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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