Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyperactive Forums

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. -- Drini 04:38, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hyperactive Forums

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Largely 1st hand article about an online forum that is largely about an Australian gaming magazine, Hyper (magazine) which already has an article. I would normally say merge, but most of the info on this page is unencylocpedic has no really bearing on the magazine so Delete CHANLORD [T]/[C] 02:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete Wikipedia is not a blog. If you remove all the cruft, then the remainder is less than a stub. Kevin 02:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Kevin: Uses “we/my” statements-- Wikipedia is not a blog. Not notable, only about 2,000 G-hits, not all relevant to subject. Does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (web) :) Dlohcierekim
  • Keep* The Hyperactive Forums serves as the offical website for the Hyper (magazine) and with editors pressence on the forums and often recruiting the forums for alot of their magazine articles. The forums serve a purpose as a medium between the Hyper staff and it's readers. They deserve their own page in history, even if the forum is unknown to you, it's known to countless others. And is in no way presented as a blog. Zip_it007
  • Delete There are a lot of gaming forums. This is one of them. Alexa 491,260. Fan1967 04:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per Kevin. Non notable blogcruft. Funnybunny (talk/Counter Vandalism Unit) 04:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep* The Hyperactive Forums serves as a community for those who like to talk about Gaming and just anything. Because of this, groups are formed, people get to know each other and gain friendships and many stories come out of this community because of this. This entry serves as a history of the goings on of the Hyperactive forums over it's lifespan and I see no reason for deletion as this section is not a blog, but a chronicalisation of Hyperactives History.Sloppy Sailor
    • The preceding comment was actually added by 138.130.7.83 Kevin 06:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep* Leave your ignorance at the door. This forum is the biggest gaming forum for Australian gamers. It has a history rich in intrigue. We promise to get rid of the shit (ie, anything that Mav/LXS wrote) because we agree it's rubbish. Besides that though, the entry is worthy and important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.116.234 (talk • contribs)
  • Delete per above, in particular the unsubstantiated claims about the sheer pwning power of the forums. Wikipedia is not not a host or webspace provider, and the history of the forums would be better catered for by a series of posts in a locked and stickied thread on the forum itself, as opposed to an external site. If evidence showing the impact of the forums can be demonstrated through the use of reliable and external third party sources, and by using these sources the information in the article can be verified, it would pass the WP:WEB inclusion criteria. (Note: Hyper Magazine would not qualify as an external, third party source. However, I am happy to settle for a Mention in and redirect to Hyper (magazine), limited to the existence of the forums, and what can be externally verified as true and summed up in a couple of paragraphs. -- saberwyn 06:45, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep* The forum is one of the most relevant sites on the net for Australian gamers. Agentknight
    • Would you be so kind as to provide a citation from a reliable, external source (such as some form of printed media, newspaper article, or published non-fiction book) to back up this claim? -- saberwyn 06:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

NOTE: A number of these votes are from very new or anon logins and are most likely contributing because they are posters on the board that this article is about. -- CHANLORD [T]/[C] 07:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Every website that has a forum cannot (and shold not) be noted independently. Rockpocket (talk) 07:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong delete despite diligent meatpuppetry. Aplomado talk 07:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Doesn't seem to meet WP:WEB. Capitalistroadster 07:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Capitalistroadster 07:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. After seeing so many votes beginning with "Do not delete", I was ready to vote delete without even reading the article, but then I went ahead and read it anyway, and found it to be your basic forum vanity. JIP | Talk 08:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Another forum bites the dust. Vizjim 09:17, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Considering there hasn't been a single Keep vote I don't think this will last long. Ydam 09:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Doesn't meet WP:WEB. (watch your userpage etc. if you comment here, see [1]. that thread also has their request for people to vote "Do Not Delete"). --james °o 10:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: also note this diff where someone made the "Do Not Delete"s into "Keep"s to make them look less suspicious... --james °o 10:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: the edit of Do not Delete to keep was in response to Ydam's comment. Zip it007 10:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Pure forumcruft. A typical gem of prose: Luckily, Mykle's excellent name for our group, Pressed Pork, fell through and he suggested the League of Extraordinary Spammers – LXS for short - turning spam into an art form, while I conjured up our infamous signature, which to this day remains banned on this very forum. Yeah. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 10:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Most of the contents of the article are of no interest to anyone outside the forum. I do not need to know how the moderators are, what "awards" the forum hands out to particularly blameless pedestrians, or what have you. It's all very introverted information. I'd like some exformation for a change. --Agamemnon2 10:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. You are all nazi editors that take this simple article too seriously, the forums should be documented amoung all the other rubbish that is here. 211.30.210.79 10:35, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Whoops! You just fell foul of Godwin's Law, and automatically lose the debate. Vizjim 11:05, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
    • It's a metaphor, you fail at the english. The fancy terms used to describe it does not make your opinion superior.211.30.210.79 15:58, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
      • It's a metaphor Thats exactly why Godwins law applies here. If it wasn't a metaphor then Godwins law wouldn't apply would it.Ydam 16:21, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete--cj | talk 11:29, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • "It's all very introverted information. I'd like some exformation for a change." <-- Wow, I can see how you got to be a Mod around here.
    • Comment: User:Agamemnon2, who wrote the "exformation" text quoted above, is a regular user, not an administrator. See this list. JIP | Talk 14:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep There are towns that have less people in it than our forums and they get mentions here. God knows their far more boring and useless than this.Failing that can we just get this added onto Hyper mags wiki? After all they are involved here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.41.1 (talk • contribs)
    • Comment It's fine for anyone to tack information about the magazine's forum onto the end of the main article, as long as it meets our rules - the article we're talking about here is just some sort of blog/history of a non-notable (by our standards) forum. If you want to mention the forum in the main mag's article, you probably won't be challenged :) --james °o 11:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. TheMadBaron 11:54, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete entirely non-notable forum. --Roisterer 12:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Non-notable. michael talk 12:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment note that this page has been edited by 203.134.138.150 to change "delete" votes to "keep", blanked and AfD tagged. TheMadBaron 13:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - non-notable and definately not encyclopediac material. Peripitus 13:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: Chanlord, TheMadBaron & Kevin were all members of Hyperactive until their respective bannings. This AFD could infact be there way of revenge agaisnt the forum who banned them. Request this article be Kept not deleted. Why should it be deleted because of some angry ex-members. Zip it007 13:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Reply: I have only signed up to the Hyperactive forums today to reply to comments made about me (and my personal life) on the forums. And I have posted on these today and have not been banned. I nominated this article for deletion prior to even visiting the forum's website -- CHANLORD [T]/[C] 13:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


  • Comment Nice try, but I think you girls lost all credibilty the moment you vandalised the page. TheMadBaron 13:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment regardless of their opinion's the reason people are voting delete it is because it does not meet the criteria set down in WP:WEB. Nobody here votes one way or the other simply because thats what other voters do Ydam 13:27, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Not to mention that AfD is not a vote in the first place, so telling everyone to come here and 'vote' doesn't mean the page won't be deleted anyway. WP:ISNOT a democracy and closing admins are intelligent enough to work out who's meatpuppeting :) --james °o 14:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete If these are the official forums for this magazine, then a short piece of info on the forums should be in the article for the magazine. The forums themselves are just another Internet bulletin board. -- Kicking222 13:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete NN forum, fails WP:WEB. As is typical with forum articles, contains no information that would be interesting or useful for anyone not already familiar with the forum, and most of the article is stuff that should really be hosted by the forum itself (list of admins, list of ex-members, etc.) Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, unencyclopedic. Kafziel 13:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep The Hyperactive Forums are different to other forums. They have a unique and diverse culture that cannot be found anywhere else. Just look at how the forumers have banded together in an attempt to keep the work they have worked so hard to create. These forums have over 3000 registered users, many who contribute in their own way. In a way, the forums are really a community of gamers. Being the Internet, how else is it possible for a community to exist without a way of communicating? -FrozenSoul80202.61.229.215 14:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Just about every forum article ever posted to AfD has had its users "banded together in an attempt to keep the work they have worked so hard to create." That's why they had to create that big white box up there. Not unique or notable, I'm afraid. Delete — AKADriver ☎ 15:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • What's more, might I add, forum members banding together in an AfD discussion, in an attempt to save their forum, will generally make Wikipedians want to delete it even more. JIP | Talk 19:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Clearly both unencyclopedic and non-notable. The magazine has an article, and a brief mention of an online forum can be made there. —CuiviénenT|C, Wednesday, 17 May 2006 @ 14:13 UTC
  • Delete POV article packed with vanity namechecks. No evodence of meeting the usual guidelines. Just zis Guy you know? 15:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Unencyclopedic, unsourced, and non-notable. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 15:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Unencyclopedic, unsourced. Rjm656s 17:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, non-notable, mention inside the article about the magazine these forums are "linked to". LjL 18:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, please! Unencyclopedic and not funny at all. --Ouro 18:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --cholmes75 20:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete – non-notable online forum – Gurch 21:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. I just don't see the point of this being on Wikipedia. It doesn't seem to serve anyone but forum members - which means it should be on the forum's webspace. Aguerriero (talk) 22:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm a game magazine editor, plenty of experience in the professional game review industry and I've never heard of these forums before, and only briefly of the magazine.⇒ SWATJester Ready Aim Fire! 22:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment It's the largest multiplatform magazine in Australia. It’s been around for over 10 years. I just find it odd that a game editor as yourself has only briefly heard of it, even if you are from another country. I guess Australia is ever more isolated from the rest of the world than I originally thought. By the way, we also have electricity! :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.239.94.127 (talk • contribs) .
Please keep the discussion relating to the Hyperactive Forums AFD debate and not the Hyper (magazine) article. -- CHANLORD [T]/[C] 02:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per all the "nazi-editors". --Eivindt@c 22:57, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete only 20 sites link here? what? M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 23:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


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