Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyoscine-pentothal (2nd nomination)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge / redirect Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hyoscine-pentothal

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I nominated this article for deletion back in November, and it still establishes not a shred of notability, and has no real references. The use of this fictional drug is already covered in the seasons articles, and doesn't warrant its own article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete/Merge- This article does not warrant it's own article whatsoever, the information can be found on 24 Wikia, has little value in this encyclopaedia. Should be merged or deleted. Steve Crossin (talk) 03:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge or redirect or weak delete I can perfectly see how someone hearing the drug's name wants to lookg it up on wikipedia because it may be a real drug. However, the article makes no claim of notability (and probably can't) and consists of a description of effects (i.e. original research). The article should therefore not exist, but this drug may receive a short mention in either 24_(TV_series)#Counter_Terrorist_Unit or List of fictional medicines and drugs (the latter of which barely survived a recent AfD). – sgeureka t•c 08:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep. It is useful to correct any wrong ideas about real pentothal and hyoscine that the viewing public may get from seeing the television show 24. I put incoming disambig hatlinks in pages Pentothal and Hyoscine. About two points raised in the previous AfD:
    • "a fake truth serum": In the fictional world of the 24 story it is real and is (all too) effective. In the real world it is a "fictional truth serum", and Wikipedia has many entries for fictional drugs: see Category:Fictional drugs.
    • "is entirely duplicative": in the episode descriptions the information about hyoscine-pentothal is scattered mixed with much other matter and would have to be ferreted for; it is not collected together. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
You need to address the core issue, notability, which the article does not address. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete Well, we don't need an article on some "fictional pain-inducing drug". Wikipedia is a global encyclopedia. This type of artiles should be deleted. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 03:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
  • (Hyoscine-pentothal occurs in the fictional world of 24 (TV series).) This article is not original research, it derives from what is said and shown in the "24" television series about it, and the "24" television series is the reference for it. It seems to be as notable as many fictional drugs described in Wikipedia. If it can't be kept, merge to 24 (TV series). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Right, and most of those articles have references other than the television show itself. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 16:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.