Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Huu Trinh

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result wasDelete while there has been some suggestions of notability in this discussion in the 2 weeks its been kept open none of this has born any fruit in the article. If someone wishes to do actual expansion of the article I'm happy to userfy the two lines of this article to enable that to happen. Gnangarra 16:49, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Huu Trinh

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A stub for over a year with no other notability than being sentenced to death in Vietnam. Can't see how this fulfills WP:BIO Strangnet 11:03, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Speedy delete Doesn't fulfill WP:BIO Gekedo 11:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep -- and expand. Perhaps not quite as well known as Schapelle Corby, however the article subject has been the subject of several secondary sources that are reliable as per the criterion at WP:BIO. See the Google News archive. A short article requires expansion, not deletion. -- Longhair\^talk 11:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment: Nine sources, some look duplicated, on Google News seems a bit low for the subject of several secondary sources. --Strangnet 11:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Longhair\^talk 11:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Not enough source material to create an encyclopedic article, all the coverage is trivial. One Night In Hackney₃₀₃ 12:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Longhair - I'll do a Factiva search and see what I can come up with. Alexander Downer has mentioned him a fair bit in the past as a person convicted of a crime overseas: he's had better luck with the Vietnamese than the Singaporeans in having death sentences commuted, which means he hasn't got as much coverage as say Van Tuong Nguyen. The article is also part of the List of Australians in international prisons so it should be kept. JRG 13:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete I am not sure the crime is notable. I would strongly support the article if the matter were political.DGG 23:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep DXRAW 03:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: I can see that you vote Keep to all AfD-nominations you cast a vote in. Should we consider this an april-fools-vote? --Strangnet 23:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Care to back up that statement with proof? I would say that you cant. DXRAW 01:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment: I just looked here and thought it looked a little strange. That with the notice on your talk page. Just a vote don't add to the argumentation. --Strangnet 10:07, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

You still have failed to show where i have voted keep to All AFD as you have said. DXRAW 12:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Vietnamese citizen commits run of the mill crime in his country of birth and recieves the usual sentence. I thought we were not a directory, but there is nothing other than directory information so far (name, crime, sentence).Garrie 23:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - people getting strong sentences in Asian countries for drug running are routine. If this happened in Australia, then some person may just be sent to jail for 2 years with no further notice. This has not caused a diplomatic incident, and like the majority of similar sentences in Asia, are standard business. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:39, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel Bryant 12:21, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete This is a completely non notable case. His punishment was in line with what is to be expected in that country. While it may be appalling to people in different countries, that does not make it notable. --Cyrus Andiron 12:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete: Per nom, non-notable. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 16:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Again, WP:BIO is just a guideline and was not created with input by the vast majority of Wikipedia users. He's notable because he was sentenced to death and the controversy surrounding it. Xanucia 22:36, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, being sentenced to death row in a controversial fashion seems notable to me. JohnnyBGood t c VIVA! 23:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - I've already asked to keep this article, but that was pending on a search of Factiva, which has uncovered some more information. Trinh's conviction in Vietnam was secured by information passed on by the Australian Federal Police, according to the articles I found on Factiva - it sparked a debate over the AFP's role in sending criminals overseas to countries where they could be executed (like what happened with the Bali Nine). Howard has also personally petitioned the Government for a commuting of his sentence - he is an Australian citizen, not a Vietnamese citizen as someone wrote above. I think this issue makes him notable - I'll add it to the article when I get time. (That's a Keep too if my comment above doesn't count). JRG 04:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, controversy? notability? where? Thoroughly non-notable drug smuggler. Lankiveil 12:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep as per JRG. I think the article can be expanded enough to be worthy of remaining. Lunus 16:14, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Delete Per nom. thewinchester 17:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.