Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hugi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 15:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hugi

There is no indication that this electronic publication is or was in any way notable. Requests to provide sources for this magazine's claim to notability were ignored. Sandstein 10:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep The magazine caters to the "demoscene," by its nature a fairly insular community, and a community notable for other reasons than its numbers. An electronic zine pointed toward an audience that likes to create graphics programs in assembler code, that stays in publication for 10 years/32 issues is "notable" to me. Others may differ. Google hits for 'hugi diskmag' are about 15k, not huge, but, sampling a few of the hits, the publication seems to be well-regarded. Very nice website, too. Bustter 22:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as spam. (If a 'zine wants to be notable, why does it label itself as "underground"? You can't be both.) --Xrblsnggt 01:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Although the article does need improvement, I strongly disagree with the suggested unnotability of the publication. Hugi is an "underground diskmag", yes, because it concentrates around the demoscene, an "underground subculture", however, Hugi happens to be one of the most notable demoscene zines. For example, when sorting the diskmag issues indexed at pouet.net by "popularity", the top 20 list contains eight issues of Hugi. --Viznut 13:45, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: Just to clarify, I didn't suggest it is not notable. I just said that the authors of the article don't (now) even assert, let alone provide any reliable source to indicate that it is notable. And I'm not convinced that the above hitcounter of one scene website meets WP:RS. Sandstein 15:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Comment See my suggestions for expansion on the Talk:Hugi page. I'm not voting yet, but if it's improved, I may vote keep. --Vossanova ^o< 20:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless expanded. (I'm not sure the demoscene is sufficiently notable that — even the best — magazine in that genre is necessarily notable for that reason alone.) — Arthur Rubin | (talk)
  • Comment: There is a good bunch of demoscene-related articles in Wikipedia. This bunch includes, for example, 74 articles on demo groups and even a dozen articles on well-known demos. IMHO, if even half of these are actually notable enough for Wikipedia for their demoscene merit alone, then there's definitely room for some of the major diskmags as well. --Viznut 07:11, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.