Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Howies

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep and cleanup. Notable and not spammy anymore, but obviously has some work. Fram 13:09, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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Previously deleted as Advert, and I was going to db-repost, but may be notable with a lot of Google Hits for "Howies" +clothing. Article will need substantial rewrite, but it's a stub anyway. Don't know if it belongs here or not. (That is, I don't know if the subject is encyclopedic or not.) Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 13:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Notable enough. 69.116.62.33 15:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep Some hits on Google News also Corpx 16:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep and cleanup. Article has been brought up from advert-style recently. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:10, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I recreated the Howies Wiki page using a copy on WayBackMachine as a template that had been on Wikipedia for sometime - this version didn't have any obvious advertising and did not have a AfD. The page now is more of how it used to look before I think someone at howies had altered the wiki entry and added lots of material that made it a blatant advert (this was on about 5th July: see howies blog entry which correlates with the date the page was made a blatant advert ). Note that there are now third-party sources for the information. Cheers, --LeisureHat 10:09, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Speedy Delete: Pure Spam.--Gavin Collins 12:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
How can this be "spam"? It has valid sources - often double sourced, I could triple or quadruple source lots of the article if you really want me to. The references are to the Financial Times, the Guardian, BBC News etc. I've yet to reference the ethical / environmental awards howies won as well (if this is a valid "source"). If this is categorized as "spam" , then have a look at Life is Good as that appears to be more "spam" like than this. I've had a look at the Spam and, to my mind it does not match anything listed there. It is not "External link spamming": one link to the companies web site at the end - shall the links to all companies that have a wiki entry be deleted.? It is not "Source soliciting", "External link spamming with bots", "Canvassing", "Wikiproject advertisement" etc, under what criteria is it "spam" please? --LeisureHat 13:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep Sources seem reputable enough, and I fail to see how the article (as currently written when I write this comment) is spam. --Craw-daddy | T | 14:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.