Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House Cannith

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merged to Dragonmarked house. I believe g0rg0n has the content, but if anything else is needed please ask. --Steve (Stephen) talk 01:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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This article about a house in the Eberron setting seems to be simply too much information, as Wikipedia is not a game manual. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 06:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

I am also proposing the following articles for deletion for the same reason:

  • Keep - Eberron is the latest setting for Dungeons and Dragons, the largest and best selling RPG in the world. These house articles don't read as a game manual and are pivotal to the Eberron setting. I'm not proposing we keep all the articles for all RPG settings, but these ones happen to be important for the understanding of this setting and it's not all going to fit into the Eberron article. Could do with a tidy to remove redlinks that are never going to have articles (at least not ones that won't be AFDd).Ben W Bell talk 08:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Merge - Upon consideration I think it's probably best that these articles are all trimmed down and then merged into a single "Dragonmarked houses (Eberron)" article or some such instead of having an article each. They are important for the understanding of the setting, but not important enough to support an article each. Also I'm not convinced the copyright notice on the logo images counts for made up organisations and artwork. Ben W Bell talk 10:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Its possible it is wrong, i referenced prior articles such as the Rogue Squadron crest. Any suggestions? --g0rg0n 16:50, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment - You can tag logos for fictional organisations as {{non-free logo|fictional logos}}, which will categorize them into Category:Fictional logos. However, these images were previously deleted ([1]), and I'm not sure that they qualify for fair use here. --Muchness 08:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep per Ben W Bell's original statement, but I would not be adverse to having the articles trimmed down slightly and merged into a (ungoly massive) List of Houses of Eberron or similar. -- saberwyn 08:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC) updated -- saberwyn 10:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Actually yes a merge into just one article with the excess fat trimmed off may be a better idea. Ben W Bell talk 10:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. I concur with the AfD proposer that these articles go overboard. Ben W Bell's argument is specious: D&D may be the largest and best-selling RPG in the world, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a universal comprehensive compendium. Dungeons & Dragons and Eberron more than do justice to the subject at hand. Groupthink 09:18, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Delete or merge. If in fact the best bits of all of these articles can be boiled down to a concise entry, I'd be OK with a "Houses of Eberron" page, but I'd much rather these pages were deleted in favor of a subsection on the current Eberron page. Groupthink 11:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or merge - There is nothing warranting an article on every single one of these houses. Merge if notability is proven (just because it's in DoD doesn't make it notable), if not delete it. -Wooty Woot? contribs 09:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge and strongly trim. In their current state, articles like House Deneith are also badly lacking in context, so merge Dragonmarked house and all the above articles to a new Houses of Eberron. Context and notability could be established per WP:NOTE, since Eberron has been the subject of published works, awards, etc. Clicketyclack 09:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge. This is a reasonably significant aspect of the Eberron setting, and has generated its fair share of discussion. A sourceable article should be possible without difficulty at either Dragonmarked House or Houses of Eberron (editorial discretion). But individual pages for each house? Too much detail. Serpent's Choice 11:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge and Remove NPOV. At least the latest article is rife with self praise. Antonrojo 14:28, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge I will go ahead and remerge all the documents and trim them up this weekend since i was the one to write the articles in the first place, it seems apropriate. Since this is my first project i appreciate your feedback and your patience. --g0rg0n 15:34, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge this information but trim it heavily. A lot of the content is not encyclopedic. Arkyan • (talk) 15:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge after a thorough purge. A brief coverage of the houses is encyclopedic, but further details should either remain in Eberron books or go on some Eberron Wiki. FrozenPurpleCube 16:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - Should we close this as a merge under Snowball? Ben W Bell talk 18:56, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge, cold and frosty is what I say! Charlie 22:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I trimmed up and merged with the Dragonmarked house article, ive kept the text in these articles in a personal file so that i may use them to perhaps expand the house descriptions in the main article a bit. Please feel free to delete the individual house articles. I personally have no idea how article deletion works. --g0rg0n 07:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion describes how it's done. Quick summary: some Wikipedia:Administrators check that agreed process has been followed, and that there's been reasonable consultation and a consensus arrived at (like here), then they delete the article(s). Clicketyclack 12:10, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I've placed a mergefrom-multiple tag at the top of Eberron. Groupthink 23:11, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I thought we were planning on merging them into a separate article, not the Eberron article. Ben W Bell talk 06:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Whoops, my bad. I'll move the merge-multiple tag from Eberron to Dragonmarked house. Groupthink 07:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.