Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hola massacre

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. --Luigi30 (Taλk) 18:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hola massacre

Hola_massacre (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) -- (View AfD)

1) This article has no sources

2) The tone is not neutral, but highly partisan

3) There is a better article on the same issue elsewhere: Hola Pabailie 15:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

  • This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 12:25, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep in light of the significant improvements made to the article by User:Julius Sahara (the previous version was, admittedly, POV and unsourced). Useful information on the massacre in the Hola, Kenya article should be transferred to Hola massacre. The former article (about the town) should, of course, make mention of the massacre (as part of the town's history), but should not focus mostly on the town itself. Black Falcon 17:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - significant historical event; well-sourced and verifiable. Walton monarchist89 18:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - sourced, encyclopaedic. WilyD 18:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep although the dates between this article and the Mau Mau uprising don't jive (this says "after", but dates it in 1959, but the Mau Mau uprising is dated ending in 1960). Now sourced and POV is generally gone. SkierRMH 18:40, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep - I found (and added) many references from which this topic may be developed. The article has sufficient sources, the tone of the article can be fixed, and Hola does not provide a better article on the same issue as suggested in the AfD proposal. In view of the above, WP:SNOW may be applicable here. -- Jreferee 20:05, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The first two points are not grounds for deletion, the third only for a merge which does not seem warrented. --TeaDrinker 20:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually, the first point would be a grounds for deletion, if it weren't patently false. WilyD 20:53, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kenya-related deletions. --   ⇒ bsnowball  08:19, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
  • The article has now been somewhat improved; the sources are still suspect, since - with the exception of two - they are not academic and almost exclusively from left wing sources. WilyD clearly hasn't kept up with the development of this article, since when it was first nominated for deletion it had no sources at all and was highly tendentious. I cannot accept Jreferee's point that the material in the Hola article is not superior to what is in this article, since it is both more extensive and makes suitable reference to different scholarly interpretations of the event. Pabailie 18:48, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.