Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hobo With a Shotgun
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete ^demon[omg plz] 00:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hobo With a Shotgun
Delete. One of the fake trailers from Grindhouse. Its an indepth summary of the trailer with some trivia factoids. As all the other fake trailers from Grindhouse haven't received their own articles (and they shouldn't) I don't see what makes this one more deserving of one. The only difference is that this was the winner of the trailer competition and was shown in select showings, but I don't think that makes it worthy of its own article. CyberGhostface 20:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete This article has zero sources, and is mostly a plot summary, which is indiscriminate information. At best, merge with Grindhouse (film). --Phirazo 04:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't see why award-winning short films can't get their own entries. This film has gotten national attention and while the article may need revision, it certainly deserves to stay.
- Its not an 'award-winning short film', its a fake movie trailer that was shown in select theaters with Grindhouse. If Thanksgiving and Don't aren't receiving articles, I don't see why this should. Especially since all the notable information could easily be stored on the main Grindhouse article. We don't need a piece-by-piece recap of a trailer filled with all these trivia bits like who 'Darth Pimp' is or that a certain type of gun was used. A paragraph recapping the trailer, who made it and the circumstances of the contest on the main Grindhouse article are more than enough.--CyberGhostface 14:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- Also, if this has an article outside of the Grindhouse article, then how come Planet Terror and Death Proof (which are far, far more notable) don't? Or Werewolf Women of the S.S...as Rob is a fairly big director in the horror genre, shouldn't his trailer get its own article?--CyberGhostface 17:42, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Even though the article needs to be cut back severely I don't see a reason to delete it. The other trailers don't have articles on them? Well, maybe someone will make them in the future. This trailer/short film won an award, why not keep an edited version of the article around? Character 01:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Because its not notable enough for its own article. Its not a short film that aired by itself at several prestigious film festivals. Its a fake trailer that won the Grindhouse trailer contest and was shown in Canada. It deserves a spot on the Grindhouse article, but relevant for an article on an encyclopedia? No. The fact that someone might make trailers for the other films is not a valid reason for keeping it. So far, no one has.
- Aside from the overlong and cluttered plot summary, it contains a series of one-sentence character entries that's not even complete and a series of trivia points which are hardly relevant. Take a look at the Thanksgiving section on the Grindhouse article. You honestly don't think that Hobo couldn't be shortened into a similar treatment?
- Some arguments to avoid: "I like it" and "Don't lose the information". Also keep in mind Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. So far I haven't seen a single legit reason to keep this. Just the "It won an award" bit. Also, a question I'd like to ask...how has it received national attention as another user claimed? Has it featured any media coverage, news articles or television interviews?--CyberGhostface 02:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
