Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hobo Hank

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:16, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hobo Hank

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Came across this page while reading somebody's talk page, although apparently he is related (in that they are both wrestling promoters) to Mosh Pit Mike who I have also nominated. Much of the information in this bio is similar to the info in that bio. This person doesn't seem to be inherently notability althuogh if notability can be established then cheers, but right now the only "sources" are Hobo Hank's own web site. Orstroeebski 07:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete: no sources. Chick Bowen 17:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
  • No Comment: Again, I don't feel it would be right for me to chime in with an opinion here, as I created both of the articles in question. The source given is AmarilloPWF.com, which is a webpage that is only editable by the webmaster, who is employed by the WTWL. I feel the nominator was misleading in identifying the only source as "Hobo Hank's own web site". Also, as I stated with Mosh Pit Mike, Hobo Hank is listed on the West Texas Wrestling Legends (WTWL) page. This is the only reason I created an article for him, I figured if he was mentioned in a wikipedia article, he deserved to have an article of his own. Burquelo 20:05, 11 January 2007 (UTC)Oh man! Here I go again, continuing with the long windedness. I also feel that user Orstrobeeski has a personal grudge against me. If he were to be putting deletion notices in all wrestler pages, I would accept it as a substantial challenge. But look at CJ Summers. This page cites no sources whatsoever, except for the wrestler's personal website. There are no federation websites which suggest he even exists, yet Orstrobeeski simply removed links instead of nominating the article for deletion. Personal attacks are fine, I'm a big boy, but I think it's unfair when it impacts a wiki.
    • I figured if he was mentioned in a wikipedia article, he deserved to have an article of his own. — That is not the case. The criteria that we employ for who warrants articles of their own are our Wikipedia:Criteria for inclusion of biographies. Please cite sources to demonstrate that this person satisfies one or more of those criteria. Uncle G 01:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Do NOT Delete: The nomination for deletion on this wiki page is an outrage. "Hobo" Hank is a professional wrestler that I have seen with my own eyes perform for West Texas Wrestling Legends in Amarillo, TX. The AmarilloPWF.com website is not ran by anyone other than WTWL Management and The WTWL Webmaster. While "Hobo" Hank is on The WTWL roster, he is not the promoter and has no access to editing AmarilloPWF.com in anyway. Being apart of The WTWL, I know that the information on Hanks' wikipedia page is 100% accurate and I can say that "Hobo" Hank has performed at every WTWL show since I've been associated with it in June of 2006. This page belongs on wiki just as much as any other wrestlers page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brett420x (talk • contribs) 22:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC).
    • None of which is relevant. Wikipedia does not operate upon the personal testimony of editors that things are "100% accurate". Our goal is Verifiability, which does not involve taking editors' words for things at all. Please cite sources to demonstrate that our criteria for inclusion of biographies are satisfied by this person. Uncle G 01:07, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • No comment again I would just like to point out the HUGE list of wrestlers on wikipedia who do not cite sources. If you delete this entry, we will need to get started on the rest. This is just the A's. Notice the well known people.. Tank Abbott, Yokozuna, Arn & Ole Anderson, Road Warrior Animal.. come on. David L. Abbott Trent Acid Donna Adamo Toni Adams Brian Adias Adrian Adonis Akebono Taro Brent Albright Gary Albright Bryan Alvarez The Amazing Darkstone Amazing Red Arn Anderson!! Gene Anderson Melissa Anderson Ole Anderson!! Davey Andrews Eric Angle Road Warrior Animal Rodney Anoa'i(Yokozuna)Kimberly Anthony Tony Anthony Scott Anthony Ray Apollo Ted Arcidi Jason Arhndt Alex Arion Brad Armstrong Scott Armstrong Steve Armstrong David Arquette Tim Arson Christopher Ashford-Smith Tony Atlas (oops, forgot to sign)Burquelo 23:20, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per above, unless some sources are found. As for the list you have recopied here, I think if someone began to do cursory research, sources would be quickly found for the people who are truly notable, thus making it a non-issue. As for the others, if sources really can't be found, then delete them.--Dmz5*Edits**Talk* 06:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete agreeing with above. Some of the aforementioned may be notable enough to warrant their own entry per WP:BIO but most probably do not and should be expunged forthwith. Eusebeus 13:23, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment those currently opposed to deletion might become more understanding of the delete votes if they read Wikipedia:Inclusion is not an indicator of notability. Lyrl Talk C 00:46, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, —— Eagle 101 (Need help?) 20:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Just a note, as the relisting admin, the only reason I am relisting is that the nominator for this AFD removed the tag off of the article, as the AFD has already attracted opinions, I thought it is best to go ahead and re-list this, so that people viewing the article have a chance to have their say. Cheers —— Eagle 101 (Need help?) 20:42, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete He is a wrestler with no varifiably notibility from respectable sources given.--Dacium 07:36, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
  • NO DELETE: Not every wrestler's Wiki page has their sources listed for all of the page's content. This Wiki page has the source of the official website of the promotion the wrestler wrestles for. This page should stay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.215.29.15 (talk) 01:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC).
This IP has been removing the afd template on several occasions.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Orstroeebski (talk • contribs) 21:22, January 18, 2007
  • DO NOT DELETE: Agree with statement above. Other wrestler's Wikipedia pages do not site all sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.29.15 (talk • contribs) 01:01, January 19, 2007
  • Keep I see no harm in keeping this wrestler's article, closing admin should discount both the IP repeating himself and propably the angry delete votes too reacting to his spam. Killroy4 16:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep There's no problem in letting this wrestler's page stand.
Comment This IP has voted three different times in this debate.Orstroeebski 12:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.