Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hitler's Pope

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP. — JIP | Talk 15:34, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hitler's Pope

I've thought quite a bit about listing this article since it has some interesting points. However it is, IMO, largely lengthy non-NPOV critiscism of a book, which probably violates copyright/fair use by containing an extremely long quote. As such, I don't think it's worth of an encyclopedia article and the useful bits could very well be merged elsewhere. chowells 19:50, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

• I don't know, Chowells. It is true that the article is badly in need of cleaning up and cutting it down to size in order to make it conform to the book. I have asked another user to have a look and you might reconsider after he has done some editing. But your criticism towards the current state is valid. This page (and other's like Pope's Hitler) was orignally created by someone to use it as a soapbox for his views on Pius XII and related (and not so related) issues. Hence many things are included that are not in the book, hence it largely is parallel to the original Pius XII page. Str1977 20:24, 26 September 2005 (UTC) But in the end, I vote for keeping a cleaned up and de-POV'ed version. Str1977 08:22, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

• (Invective deleted) The book Hitler's Pope is more than notable enough to warrant an article, and while I strongly disagree with that book's sentiments, this AFD vote should end quickly with a Speedy keep. Paul 22:28, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
• I hereby apologize for the above comment as it was unduly harsh and not in conformance with WP protocol. I might have mistakenly believed that the article was nominated by an anonymous IP address, which led me to term that person as a "clown," something I'd have not done to a registered user. Regardless, my wording was inappropriate and I will hereafter refer to neither anon or registered users as clowns. Paul 00:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
  • Not even Bozo? There were so many local Bozos that one or two of those actors might be WP editors. Barno 18:55, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
    • ROFL, for some reason when I read that the first time I didn't get it...but Bozo will indeed always be a clown, even if his contributions consistently make it to WP:FA. Paul 05:52, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup for NPOV. Notable book about important topic. Capitalistroadster 00:18, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
• keep please thise subject is important too Yuckfoo 05:29, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.