Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Historical regions of Greece

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The result was redirect. (non admin closure)Pichpich (talk) 19:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Historical regions of Greece

Historical regions of Greece (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)

Unclear what this was intended to be. What makes a region of Greece historical? The list is not placed into any sort of context and it's orphaned so we can't try and guess what the idea was. Pichpich (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete doesn't really have any context, just a list of a bunch of regions in Greece, and it doesn't say what makes these regions special. Hatmatbbat10Talk to me 21:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep it needs sourcing, historical is used here apparently for "formerly used" or "defunct"; it can be sourced, jut not pretty the way it is. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 22:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep but add sources. Historical has an obvious meaning as pointed out. The list should be pruned of regions that continue to exist as political entities to make the distinction clearer, or should be organized in some chronological fashion. --Dhartung | Talk 22:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Comment I don't think it's as obvious as Carlos or Dhartung claim. I am not aware that "region" was ever an administrative subdivision existing in Greece and the term "historical region" could just as well be "region with a specific importance with respect to Greek history" or something of the sort. Note that there is a list of defunct provinces of Greece in this article. As I said, if we're speculating on what the article means, we just can't keep it. Pichpich (talk) 23:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Comment My vote was not predicated on the assumption that each of these was once a formal political entity. The word "region" is typically vaguer than that. I can see how there is considerable overlap with the other article, but I'd like to be satisfied we aren't throwing away a useful list with a broader scope. --Dhartung | Talk 05:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I can agree to that. My point is just that if we can't make anything other than an educated guess about its meaning, then there's no reason keeping the list. Pichpich (talk) 06:12, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

• Delete unless someone wants to do this right. it needs sources, and a map, or it's meaningless. As it is, it's a combination of regions of different types--with no indication of where to go for further information, as most of the names are not in WP, not even in List of Greek place names, and the few that are here, are not linked. As it is, it's virtually useless. DGG (talk) 18:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
• Redirect to Provinces of Greece because that article de facto already includes a list of historical regions of Greece. Andrzej Kmicic (talk) 23:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
• Redirect as Andrzej suggests. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.